Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 11:05     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
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Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.

Hit submit too fast. Take Warren for example. She’s polling second behind Biden and given that Biden has more name recognition than anyone else in this primary, coalesce around her. If you’re going to call her “too liberal,” cite why - using only quotes from her website.


DP: I like Warren a lot. But some of her cornerstone ideas are not popular. Most specifically, Medicare for All. https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/

Warren is popular with white liberals. She is less popular with the rest of the electorate. It worries me, when we have a hard election coming up!


Yes, she is trailing Biden with AA voters, but “There has been some anecdotal evidence that Warren can forge a connection with black voters, especially women, when she gets to address diverse crowds in person. But that has yet to translate into concrete results in the polls.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/456862-the-memo-warren-emerges-as-bidens-most-dangerous-rival%3famp She’s trailing but I don’t sense the same hostility that the AA community has toward Buttigieg, for example.


No that's true. I don't think she has no shot with AA voters. But my inclination is to support whichever candidate AA voters, white suburban women, and independents seem to like the most. Right now that seems to be Biden - so I am taking with a grain of salt all these calls fro Biden (the front runner) to drop out, and the people claiming he is too old or clumsy or whatever to be elected.

But look - I will vote for my coffee pot if that is the nominee. (To be fair I love coffee.) I don't see myself as needing to love the nominee. I just need them to beat Trump.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 11:02     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.

Hit submit too fast. Take Warren for example. She’s polling second behind Biden and given that Biden has more name recognition than anyone else in this primary, coalesce around her. If you’re going to call her “too liberal,” cite why - using only quotes from her website.


DP: I like Warren a lot. But some of her cornerstone ideas are not popular. Most specifically, Medicare for All. https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/

Warren is popular with white liberals. She is less popular with the rest of the electorate. It worries me, when we have a hard election coming up!


Yes, she is trailing Biden with AA voters, but “There has been some anecdotal evidence that Warren can forge a connection with black voters, especially women, when she gets to address diverse crowds in person. But that has yet to translate into concrete results in the polls.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/456862-the-memo-warren-emerges-as-bidens-most-dangerous-rival%3famp She’s trailing but I don’t sense the same hostility that the AA community has toward Buttigieg, for example.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:53     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Biden’s fine.


That's how I feel, too. Biden is fine. He's doing well. He says embarrassing things but he's less embarrassing than Trump - and less evil. Vote Biden.

no, Biden is not fine. I've explained why he would be a poor choice, but it gets deleted. Apparently, the "moderator" does not allow a critical observation about the Dems' fronrunner. He has made numerous racist comments, and sided with segregationalists in opposing busing. You don't think that will come out during the campaign? How is it helping for the moderator to disallow any criticism?

The more the moderator censors, the more I know how panicked he is that the Dems will loSe again.


Because you sound like a social media influencer, hitting all the current anti-Biden talking points. A poster who is on the payroll of some group or country (cough!RUSSIA!coughcough) trying to take down the only Democrat with a realistic chance of beating Trump.



OMG. Do you hear your paranoid self? Still harping about Russia, are we? Speaking of talking points... you really need to join the rest of the country, out here in the real world.
-DP

In the real world, it’s acknowledged that Russia interfered with the GOP’s assistance.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:51     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

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Why doesn’t anyone tell Joe it’s time to retire with dignity?



IMO, Obama’s deafening silence is saying it.


You think Obama would endorse one of 20 candidates at this point? Nope.


Obama could have endorsed Joe long ago. He chose not to.


He'll endorse whoever the Dem nominee is. I don't recall any former president endorsing a primary contender - do you? (Maybe you do and I am just remembering wrong.)

No one has ever done this but of course when Obama also chooses not to there’s something wrong with Joe.


you forgot the /s

there might BE something wrong with joe and he might also be the best choice and have a good shot of beating trump
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:51     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.


Preach! - R Voter who would watch any (or all) candidate/s debate AOC
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:51     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.

Hit submit too fast. Take Warren for example. She’s polling second behind Biden and given that Biden has more name recognition than anyone else in this primary, coalesce around her. If you’re going to call her “too liberal,” cite why - using only quotes from her website.


DP: I like Warren a lot. But some of her cornerstone ideas are not popular. Most specifically, Medicare for All. https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/

Warren is popular with white liberals. She is less popular with the rest of the electorate. It worries me, when we have a hard election coming up!
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:49     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.


I think most people would agree that handing out taxpayer funded education and healthcare to illegal immigrants whilst we can't even provide these basic rights to our citizens is an idiotic idea.


I am a Democrat - so I would not use the language of the PP. But I would say the thrust of what PP is saying. That a public option is wildly popular, and Medicare for All is not. That even Democrats do get concerned about border security, at least as much as human rights.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:48     Subject: Re:Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

WWFD?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:45     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.


I think most people would agree that handing out taxpayer funded education and healthcare to illegal immigrants whilst we can't even provide these basic rights to our citizens is an idiotic idea.


Bingo.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:45     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why doesn’t anyone tell Joe it’s time to retire with dignity?



IMO, Obama’s deafening silence is saying it.


You think Obama would endorse one of 20 candidates at this point? Nope.


Obama could have endorsed Joe long ago. He chose not to.


He'll endorse whoever the Dem nominee is. I don't recall any former president endorsing a primary contender - do you? (Maybe you do and I am just remembering wrong.)

No one has ever done this but of course when Obama also chooses not to there’s something wrong with Joe.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:43     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.

Hit submit too fast. Take Warren for example. She’s polling second behind Biden and given that Biden has more name recognition than anyone else in this primary, coalesce around her. If you’re going to call her “too liberal,” cite why - using only quotes from her website.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:43     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

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Anonymous wrote:Biden’s fine.


That's how I feel, too. Biden is fine. He's doing well. He says embarrassing things but he's less embarrassing than Trump - and less evil. Vote Biden.

no, Biden is not fine. I've explained why he would be a poor choice, but it gets deleted. Apparently, the "moderator" does not allow a critical observation about the Dems' fronrunner. He has made numerous racist comments, and sided with segregationalists in opposing busing. You don't think that will come out during the campaign? How is it helping for the moderator to disallow any criticism?

The more the moderator censors, the more I know how panicked he is that the Dems will loSe again.


Because you sound like a social media influencer, hitting all the current anti-Biden talking points. A poster who is on the payroll of some group or country (cough!RUSSIA!coughcough) trying to take down the only Democrat with a realistic chance of beating Trump.



OMG. Do you hear your paranoid self? Still harping about Russia, are we? Speaking of talking points... you really need to join the rest of the country, out here in the real world.
-DP
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:42     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.


I think most people would agree that handing out taxpayer funded education and healthcare to illegal immigrants whilst we can't even provide these basic rights to our citizens is an idiotic idea.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:40     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive
r
Agree. And what is it with the snide remark about people "fearing progress"? Get out of your arrogant bubble and you'd see that most people do not see far-left policies as "progress." They see them as weakening,or even destroying, the country.

Eh. Every time I ask what policies people think “progressive” means, I get regurgitated Fox talking points. So if you’re going to use GOP framing, I’m going to say you’re not arguing in good faith.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2019 10:39     Subject: Moderate Dem who should we coalesce around since Biden is an embarrassment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Booker is a crazy.


Booker is an utter moron.
Biden is senile at best.
Bernie is a loon.

Bennet is the best moderate but nobody is paying attention to him.


The only solid, moderate Dems are polling at least than 1%.

Speaks volumes at what the party has become.


OP agree and that's my fear. It's obvious Biden has lost a step. We need to coalesce around an alternative to make sure a progressive doesn't end up with the nom = trump certain victory

Your fear is insane. Do you know how many people actually like progressive policies? Do you know that not everyone fears progress? That perhaps after four years of same old same old GOP politics, perhaps the change they want is something non-criminal and substantive? If you really care about defetaingbthe criminal GOP, get involved. Stacey Abrams’s new Fair Fight or any of the other groups fighting vote suppression. Registering voters. Working for whoever the eventual nominee is.


lol the progressive viewpoint isn't even a majority in our party and if you include independents it's a total landslide. Get off twitter and this site. A majority of Ds aren't progressive


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