Anonymous
08/10/2019 08:28
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes. Overpowered the French colonial government and killed most of the rich plantation owners. In India, they did it without weapons.
Once the vast majority of people become so poor and disenfranchised, they resort to revolution by one means or another.
I'm really surprised conservatives are supporting gun ownership for this reason, since they will be the "rich" party being rebelled against, weird flex, but ok. Unless many of these conservatives are getting their info from employees in Russia, then it makes sense.
You can’t be this dumb??
Just as many Democrat voters own guns and are supportive of the 2nd Amendment as Republicans.
Who do you think has more wealth, the average American gun owner (Dem or Rep), or antigun liberal elites??
You really need to leave your coddled Chevy Chase cocoon every now and then.
Anonymous
08/10/2019 08:19
Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Freedom of the Press has proven to be more dangerous than the right to bear arms. The pen is mightier than the sword. Guns and ammo don't shoot themselves. People shoot them. People are easily influenced and manipulated by the press and now, social media (re: Cambridge Analytica / FB). Propaganda is the weapon of the most dangerous minds throughout history. Russia is doing it now and will continue to do it, because we are so susceptible. if you plot the data, the rise of social media and the rise of mass shootings occur over the same time periods. So perhaps, we should all think about solutions that work, not those that might seem convenient. It is probably time to regulate these sites more heavily
How do you secure the freedom of the press? In what fantasy land will an oppressive government with their armed thugs plan to storm a newspaper publisher and turn around dejected after reading a sign that says: "Freedom of the Press!"
I think you’re missing my point. Anyhow, keep arguing about guns. Remember 9/11? Any guns used? No. Any rhetoric used? Yes.
And yes, I am being extreme to make a point. It is the hearts and minds that cause these tragedies, not an inanimate object.
Anonymous
08/10/2019 08:16
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Not because they had the right to bear arms though
.
India/Pakistan did it without guns.
MLK did it without guns
Hungary and Czechoslovakia tried it with guns and failed. When they tried it without guns it succeeded.
MLK did what?
Adultery and Speeches.
All without guns.
Not sure why he's relevant to this, though.
Maybe PP was thinking of Gandhi.
Anonymous
08/10/2019 08:12
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Not because they had the right to bear arms though
.
India/Pakistan did it without guns.
MLK did it without guns
Hungary and Czechoslovakia tried it with guns and failed. When they tried it without guns it succeeded.
MLK did what?
Anonymous
08/10/2019 07:11
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The United States
It’s OWN government, not colonial rule.
Ok. History lesson. The England and the Monarch was the government. Moron. You literally missed the point of what the revolution was about. Holy Jesus you are dumb.
Don't be so cruel.
Previous PP probably believes History started with MLK jr (don't even bother asking about the original ML)
Anonymous
08/10/2019 01:32
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes. Overpowered the French colonial government and killed most of the rich plantation owners. In India, they did it without weapons.
Once the vast majority of people become so poor and disenfranchised, they resort to revolution by one means or another.
I'm really surprised conservatives are supporting gun ownership for this reason, since they will be the "rich" party being rebelled against, weird flex, but ok. Unless many of these conservatives are getting their info from employees in Russia, then it makes sense.
Anonymous
08/10/2019 01:21
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The United States
It’s OWN government, not colonial rule.
Ok. History lesson. The England and the Monarch was the government. Moron. You literally missed the point of what the revolution was about. Holy Jesus you are dumb.
Classic.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 23:58
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Not because they had the right to bear arms though
.
India/Pakistan did it without guns.
MLK did it without guns
Hungary and Czechoslovakia tried it with guns and failed. When they tried it without guns it succeeded.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 23:33
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The United States
It’s OWN government, not colonial rule.
Ok. History lesson. The England and the Monarch was the government. Moron. You literally missed the point of what the revolution was about. Holy Jesus you are dumb.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 23:24
Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).
Whomever posted this (above) is a class-A idiot. A really low-information type. Belly laughs on this part, especially "would have been a nightmare for them to even try."
Yep, mountain warfare is a walk in the park. That's why we've been kicked the Taliban's ass in Afghanistan for 18 years!
+1
Anonymous
08/09/2019 23:20
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Standby for moving goalposts in 5......4.......3........2..........
Now, among us, ain't Haiti a lovely small sh!thole?
That doesn't apply to us.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 22:42
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Standby for moving goalposts in 5......4.......3........2..........
Anonymous
08/09/2019 22:41
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?
Yes.
They kicked out the French.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 22:40
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Second Amendment doesn't mean what the gun nuts think it does. Why isn't this brought up in a legal setting more often?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-americas-gun-fanatics-wont-tell-you-2016-06-14
SCOTUS disagrees.
Even the anti-gun Giffords law center correctly recites that SCOTUS found an individual right to own a firearm in DC v Heller.
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/the-second-amendment/the-supreme-court-the-second-amendment/dc-v-heller/
It doesn't matter what you or I think, its what 9 unelected people in black robes think.
That doesn't mean it can't be regulated and the opinion isn't conclusive on types of firearms. It also doesn't give a right to import.
Prior SCOTUS opinions held that weapons that were proper for mliita use were protected. This was used to recognize the NFA as being constitutional.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/174/
The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon.
As argued by many, "assault weapons" are weapons of war, and therefore would be permissible as they would be effective for militia use.
Anonymous
08/09/2019 22:38
Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:The slaves in Haiti used overpowered their oppressive owners.
Did they overpower a government?