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Anonymous wrote:Institutional racism explains Asian success.

Not an Asian but hard work, delayed gratification, and parental pressure explain why the Asian kids in my classes do much better than all but a few whites, even fewer Hispanics, and no blacks.

I'm not sure why this comment is useful in this conversation unless you are encouraging parents to pressure the school system to be able to remove disruptive students. Teachers hands are tied due to the changes made disciplining students: we pulled our DC out of the chaotic environment of some classes, against teacher recommendations, and voila.

God bless the teachers (aka magicians) who are on the front line of our societal crisis.

It is your comment that is not useful. As a high school physics teacher, I was stating the reason why I see the Asians succeed in my classes compared to whites, Hispanics, and blacks. My classes are nit filled with dusruotive students but some who are lazy and do bot have tge parental pressure to make them succeed in school.

I don't think you can lump all Asians together. The Japanese aren't the same as the Koreans. Would you lump all Europeans together? It doesn't work that way.

I've seen kids from African nations turn sour in the US despite high expectations parents have set for them. But b/c of the chaos in the US school system, their behaviors aren't addressed. So they sink.

I agree that most of the responsibility should be put on parents. But at the same time, if a school system is allowing kids to act out, it becomes a tug of war between the home and the school, with kids as the pawns.

I wish you all would see what a sh*t show education has become. Open your eyes and stop making excuses. No child - despite horrible obstacles s/he is facing - should be allowed to disrupt another child's learning. We need to address their needs but not at the expense of classroom instruction for the majority of the kids who want to learn.

+1,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:TL;DR

She is irrelevant and is actually hurting her chance to remain in office the longer she stays in the race.

+1

old news

She just needs to stop.

OP here. I don't think she should be running for President but that doesn't mean her answer to that question wasn't spot on. It was really good.

White privilege is excusism.

It’s a ploy to make whites feel guilty for showing up to work in time, doing their best, applying for jobs.
Some whites, like gillibrand clearly but into it.

Not me.

Not DJT.


And if it’s such a big problem, why haven’t the open wallet dems fixed it after $60 Trillion dollars spent?

Didn’t you guys just control the whitehouse and both houses of Congress?

Why would anyone ever vote for you?

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:She's trying to Kaepernick her way back in.

no thanks

LOL. Love the way Kaepernick is used as a verb. It actually works.

Don’t give her ideas. Next she’ll take a knee when someone starts a political event with the National Anthem. Her nuanced, white privilege gesture will honor the Baltimore blacks who don’t have the bus fare to visit Fort McHenry. This could escalate.

Anonymous wrote:Do people think that the term white privilege is some way to say all white people are horrible?

Because that is not at ALL the point

Tell that to the school systems & companies that require "white privilege" training. Sure it's a mixed group - but guess who the "target audience" is?

At this point, white is white is white. This country loves its labels, and it loves to lump people into separate categories.

But feel free to tell me what I've perhaps overlooked in my training sessions.

Do people think that the term white privilege is some way to say all white people are horrible?

Because that is not at ALL the point

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Anonymous wrote:"I wish you all would see what a sh*t show education has become. Open your eyes and stop making excuses. No child - despite horrible obstacles s/he is facing - should be allowed to disrupt another child's learning. We need to address their needs but not at the expense of classroom instruction for the majority of the kids who want to learn."

Yes

Way to take a thread way off topic. Go to the education forum to do your rants.

Sometimes threads don't have to be transactional. Gillibrand represents both ends of the economic spectrum and the educational barbell. My nieces and nephews were in almost empty AP classes. One got a 1590 on the SAT and the other 34 on their ACT with perfect grades, and insane extracurriculars. They are as poor as dirt yet, they did it anyway.

Gillibrand hasn't done sh*t for these kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"I wish you all would see what a sh*t show education has become. Open your eyes and stop making excuses. No child - despite horrible obstacles s/he is facing - should be allowed to disrupt another child's learning. We need to address their needs but not at the expense of classroom instruction for the majority of the kids who want to learn."

Yes

Way to take a thread way off topic. Go to the education forum to do your rants.

As an older, white female, I'm showing you that I DON'T use my privilege b/c I truly want to make the system better for all kids. Not all whites are HORRIBLE beasts who snub their noses "at the masses."

How's THAT for an answer?

Well, you’ve shown you don’t know idiomatic expressions. Great job, teach!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Institutional racism explains Asian success.

Not an Asian but hard work, delayed gratification, and parental pressure explain why the Asian kids in my classes do much better than all but a few whites, even fewer Hispanics, and no blacks.

I'm not sure why this comment is useful in this conversation unless you are encouraging parents to pressure the school system to be able to remove disruptive students. Teachers hands are tied due to the changes made disciplining students: we pulled our DC out of the chaotic environment of some classes, against teacher recommendations, and voila.

God bless the teachers (aka magicians) who are on the front line of our societal crisis.

It is your comment that is not useful. As a high school physics teacher, I was stating the reason why I see the Asians succeed in my classes compared to whites, Hispanics, and blacks. My classes are nit filled with dusruotive students but some who are lazy and do bot have tge parental pressure to make them succeed in school.

I don't think you can lump all Asians together. The Japanese aren't the same as the Koreans. Would you lump all Europeans together? It doesn't work that way.

I've seen kids from African nations turn sour in the US despite high expectations parents have set for them. But b/c of the chaos in the US school system, their behaviors aren't addressed. So they sink.

I agree that most of the responsibility should be put on parents. But at the same time, if a school system is allowing kids to act out, it becomes a tug of war between the home and the school, with kids as the pawns.

I wish you all would see what a sh*t show education has become. Open your eyes and stop making excuses. No child - despite horrible obstacles s/he is facing - should be allowed to disrupt another child's learning. We need to address their needs but not at the expense of classroom instruction for the majority of the kids who want to learn.

Anonymous wrote:So what are white folks here doing to check their privilege? Specific examples, please. TIA.

Reveling in it. Deal with it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Institutional racism explains Asian success.

Not an Asian but hard work, delayed gratification, and parental pressure explain why the Asian kids in my classes do much better than all but a few whites, even fewer Hispanics, and no blacks.

I'm not sure why this comment is useful in this conversation unless you are encouraging parents to pressure the school system to be able to remove disruptive students. Teachers hands are tied due to the changes made disciplining students: we pulled our DC out of the chaotic environment of some classes, against teacher recommendations, and voila.

God bless the teachers (aka magicians) who are on the front line of our societal crisis.

It is your comment that is not useful. As a high school physics teacher, I was stating the reason why I see the Asians succeed in my classes compared to whites, Hispanics, and blacks. My classes are nit filled with dusruotive students but some who are lazy and do bot have tge parental pressure to make them succeed in school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TL;DR

She is irrelevant and is actually hurting her chance to remain in office the longer she stays in the race.

+1

old news

She just needs to stop.

OP here. I don't think she should be running for President but that doesn't mean her answer to that question wasn't spot on. It was really good.

White privilege is excusism.

It’s a ploy to make whites feel guilty for showing up to work in time, doing their best, applying for jobs.
Some whites, like gillibrand clearly but into it.

Not me.

Not DJT.


And if it’s such a big problem, why haven’t the open wallet dems fixed it after $60 Trillion dollars spent?

Didn’t you guys just control the whitehouse and both houses of Congress?

Why would anyone ever vote for you?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Institutional racism explains Asian success.

Not an Asian but hard work, delayed gratification, and parental pressure explain why the Asian kids in my classes do much better than all but a few whites, even fewer Hispanics, and no blacks.

I'm not sure why this comment is useful in this conversation unless you are encouraging parents to pressure the school system to be able to remove disruptive students. Teachers hands are tied due to the changes made disciplining students: we pulled our DC out of the chaotic environment of some classes, against teacher recommendations, and voila.

God bless the teachers (aka magicians) who are on the front line of our societal crisis.

Anonymous wrote:Institutional racism explains Asian success.

Not an Asian but hard work, delayed gratification, and parental pressure explain why the Asian kids in my classes do much better than all but a few whites, even fewer Hispanics, and no blacks.

Anonymous wrote:White womansplaining.

Brava!

Anonymous wrote:please, like republicans give a shit about the citizens of THIS country.

Biggest crock of shit ever.

Another nuanced comment from an educated elitist.