Anonymous wrote:The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))

I've lost some weight with IF...I'm going to try 20:4 now! Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Not an IFer, but I don't know why you guys are bothering to respond to this concern trolling twit. The fact that she can see no middle ground between eating cake, donuts, and pancakes whenever she wants and having some form of of discipline is, as she says, striking. Don't let the haters get you down, IFers.

Ah, nope. The fact is, I *am* capable of having the occasional donut or pancake or whatever without going into a blind panic about my impending morbid obesity. That is, I have some discipline. I don't need to create rigid rules for myself and then go to great lengths to justify them to internet strangers.

What makes you think IFers and alike are 'going into blind panic' and have 'rigid rules'? I do IF and low carb (sometimes strict, sometimes loose) and have occasional treats every now and then.

+1. It’s not all or nothing. Again, PP doesn’t have the critical thinking skills to understand this. But it’s fine - I really don’t care what he/she thinks.
Was just trying to help OP as someone who was formerly addicted to eating.

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Anonymous wrote:Not an IFer, but I don't know why you guys are bothering to respond to this concern trolling twit. The fact that she can see no middle ground between eating cake, donuts, and pancakes whenever she wants and having some form of of discipline is, as she says, striking. Don't let the haters get you down, IFers.

Ah, nope. The fact is, I *am* capable of having the occasional donut or pancake or whatever without going into a blind panic about my impending morbid obesity. That is, I have some discipline. I don't need to create rigid rules for myself and then go to great lengths to justify them to internet strangers.

What makes you think IFers and alike are 'going into blind panic' and have 'rigid rules'? I do IF and low carb (sometimes strict, sometimes loose) and have occasional treats every now and then.

Anonymous wrote:Not an IFer, but I don't know why you guys are bothering to respond to this concern trolling twit. The fact that she can see no middle ground between eating cake, donuts, and pancakes whenever she wants and having some form of of discipline is, as she says, striking. Don't let the haters get you down, IFers.

Ah, nope. The fact is, I *am* capable of having the occasional donut or pancake or whatever without going into a blind panic about my impending morbid obesity. That is, I have some discipline. I don't need to create rigid rules for myself and then go to great lengths to justify them to internet strangers.

Not an IFer, but I don't know why you guys are bothering to respond to this concern trolling twit. The fact that she can see no middle ground between eating cake, donuts, and pancakes whenever she wants and having some form of of discipline is, as she says, striking. Don't let the haters get you down, IFers.

FWIW, I am currently successfully doing WW and I too can make pancakes (or waffles) for my kids and not eat them. That is a weekend treat and I rarely partake.

Probably once a week I will do a 16:8 day, I almost always have a 12 hour “fast” overnight and my DH usually does 1-2 16:8 days a week. IF really was key to him reversing a diabetes diagnosis and he dropped 25 pounds a year ago and has kept it off. I was not losing the weight I wanted with IF because I overdid it on snacks during my eating window so I am doing WW now. That said, I agree IF is very flexible.

On the what will your kids think front, our kids (a teen and a tween both girls) know that we changed our eating habits to be healthier. They know that we don’t think pancakes and donuts are good food to have all the time and that everything is okay in moderation. We also cook almost everything from scratch, bring lunches most days and are gradually moving more and more processed foods out of our family’s diet.

Anonymous wrote:^^Also, don't think kids are fooled. You think they don't notice that you don't eat until 2pm on weekends? What if they wake up and want to go out for donuts? Or for you to make them pancakes? You think they don't notice that you have none of that? Please.

If you're constantly making pancakes for your kids and taking them out for donuts that is it's own issue. I do IF and also occasionally eat donuts and pancakes with my children, but it's not a usual occurrence for anyone in my family because those two items are pure sugar and contribute to disbetes and the epidemic of obesity in our country.

Interesting that people are so worried about parents not eating pancakes and donuts with their kids instead of being worrieed that dessert foods are the staple of breakfast foods in this country! Then wondering why they have gained so much weight lol

We don't have to eat every waking hour of the day to be healthy. You can eat whole, unprocessed foods 4-6 hours per day and be much healthier than of you ate pancakes and donuts with your kids every day!

Anonymous wrote:^^Also, don't think kids are fooled. You think they don't notice that you don't eat until 2pm on weekends? What if they wake up and want to go out for donuts? Or for you to make them pancakes? You think they don't notice that you have none of that? Please.

Just like the other PP, I am more flexible on weekends and usually do an adaptive 16:8. Yesterday I went out to brunch and had dinner. It’s not restrictive at all. You just don’t have the critical thinking skills to see how plenty of us do this successfully without feeling restricted.

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Anonymous wrote:The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))

It's that you are forbidden from eating anything until 2pm and then again after 6pm. So, if you take your kid to a morning birthday party, no cake for you! If neighbors invite you for a casual evening beer and it's after 6pm? Nope!

It's unbelievably restrictive. That you can't see that is striking.

Oh, okay. Not eating cake for breakfast is 'unbelievably restrictive'. Now I see, thank you very much for explaining, lol.

LOL seriously. The thought of eating cake in the morning as an adult is nauseating anyway - and I love food.

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Anonymous wrote:The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))

It's that you are forbidden from eating anything until 2pm and then again after 6pm. So, if you take your kid to a morning birthday party, no cake for you! If neighbors invite you for a casual evening beer and it's after 6pm? Nope!

It's unbelievably restrictive. That you can't see that is striking.

Actually, Dr. Fung recommends adapting your fasting around your life, not the other way around. If I have a morning birthday party, I'll eat the cake in the morning, and fast longer later in the day. If I get invited over to a friend's house in the evening, I'll eat or drink whatever I want and either fast earlier/later or just skip that day and fast on a different day. It's actually very flexible and works around your life. You do not have to be rigid about it. I fast different hours each day of the week depending on my daily schedule and commitments, and some days I don't fast at all. I'm the PP above who lost 21 lbs. Switching things up and being flexible is better and not restrictive at all. But again, if it feels that way to you, it's not the right diet/way of eating food you!

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Anonymous wrote:The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))

It's that you are forbidden from eating anything until 2pm and then again after 6pm. So, if you take your kid to a morning birthday party, no cake for you! If neighbors invite you for a casual evening beer and it's after 6pm? Nope!

It's unbelievably restrictive. That you can't see that is striking.

Oh, okay. Not eating cake for breakfast is 'unbelievably restrictive'. Now I see, thank you very much for explaining, lol.

^^Also, don't think kids are fooled. You think they don't notice that you don't eat until 2pm on weekends? What if they wake up and want to go out for donuts? Or for you to make them pancakes? You think they don't notice that you have none of that? Please.

Anonymous wrote:The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))

It's that you are forbidden from eating anything until 2pm and then again after 6pm. So, if you take your kid to a morning birthday party, no cake for you! If neighbors invite you for a casual evening beer and it's after 6pm? Nope!

It's unbelievably restrictive. That you can't see that is striking.

Intermittent fasting IS a means of calorie restriction just like any other. Again, several of us are just reporting how we have given up an unhealthy obsession with food as the OP asked. There’s not just one of us!

My kids see me eat dinner with them every night and I eat with them during the day on the weekends. I’m not sure how they’re being scarred because they wouldn’t see me eat during the work day anyway. If you don’t get this, I can’t help you.

The question was - what is so terribly restrictive about eating lunch at 2 pm and dinner at 6 pm? Is ut just the mere fact that you'll be skipping breakfast - aka course, 'the most important meal of the day'? )))