Anonymous wrote:Well, the phone owner should pick and throw the child in the pool. If the child drowns then it is the child's parents fault anyways.

See how this logic works?

DCUM doesn't care about logic. Only money.

The phone probably just needed to be dried out in a sealed up ziploc of uncooked rice.

Well, the phone owner should pick and throw the child in the pool. If the child drowns then it is the child's parents fault anyways.

See how this logic works?

Still haven't gotten a real answer about how the phone was left

Was the woman sitting next to it when the kid came up and threw it? if so, 100% on the kid

If she left it 1 foot from the pool and walked away, she bears some responsibility of course

My guess in this situation is the woman didn't leave it within inches of the pool

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have phone insurance so when I drop my phone in the pool, I pay $100 for a replacement. But when a 2 year old or 12 year old throws my phone purposefully into the pool, then I should expect $800 (or possibly $100) from the parent, promptly.

Sorry, this doesn't make sense to me.

Oh, FFS. In polite society, an adult immediately OFFERS to take responsibility for damage/property loss that is either their own fault or the fault of their child. In polite society, such an offer would be refused by the other person if their own negligence contributed to the problem in some way.

As usual, it's easy to spot the grown adults on DCUM vs. the immature rubes.

I get it. I'm an immature rube. Y'all are much more mature than I am. Until this same hypothetical was posted last year, it wouldn't have occurred to me that the proper social etiquette was to politely offer to pay and to politely decline the offer.

Anonymous wrote:I have phone insurance so when I drop my phone in the pool, I pay $100 for a replacement. But when a 2 year old or 12 year old throws my phone purposefully into the pool, then I should expect $800 (or possibly $100) from the parent, promptly.

Sorry, this doesn't make sense to me.

Oh, FFS. In polite society, an adult immediately OFFERS to take responsibility for damage/property loss that is either their own fault or the fault of their child. In polite society, such an offer would be refused by the other person if their own negligence contributed to the problem in some way.

As usual, it's easy to spot the grown adults on DCUM vs. the immature rubes.

A toddler isn't old enough to bear responsibility for his actions. I doubt that he could distinguish between items that can be thrown in the pool and items that cannot--people throw things into the pool all the time--diving sticks, floating toys, balls, etc.

If you leave your phone sitting next to the edge of a swimming pool, you are accepting the risk that it might get kicked, stepped on, splashed on, or knocked into the pool. So, you are obviously okay with the thing getting wet. And if there are little kids running around, that risk goes way up, even if parents are supervising their kids.

I am surprised to see how many people blame a 2 YO vs. a grown woman who should know better. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? You put your phone down in a public place, you risk something happening to it. Simple.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:while I would offer to pay, I do think you assume risk taking your phone to the edge of a pool. What if someone accidentally kicked it in?

Then that's a different situation. Don't be dense. An accidental kick or splash is different from a child purposefully grabbing and throwing it.

In a 12 year old? Probably. In a 2 year old? Not really.

When my kids were 2 they weren't just random synapses and muscle spasms - some of their actions were accidental (falling down, even dropping a utensil) and some of them were purposeful (throwing food, pulling someone's hair). I'm not saying a 2 year old should appreciate the value of an iPhone the same as would be expected of a 12 year old. But to say that an accident and something done on purpose are the same thing is obtuse. Even for a 2 year old.

If I was the owner of the phone. I would want them to offer to pay and then I would refuse

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So glad my kids are grown that I don't have to even bother with such hypothetical's anymore.

Yes, now you can move on to a deeper exploration of when to use the plural vs. when to use the possessive.

You beat me to it...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:while I would offer to pay, I do think you assume risk taking your phone to the edge of a pool. What if someone accidentally kicked it in?

Then that's a different situation. Don't be dense. An accidental kick or splash is different from a child purposefully grabbing and throwing it.

In a 12 year old? Probably. In a 2 year old? Not really.

If you leave your phone on the counter in the mall, it will get stolen. Your fault for leaving it there.

If you leave your phone on the floor in the garage and a kid rides their bike over it and breaks it, your fault again - because it is your responsibility to keep track of.

If you have your phone stored in your purse at the mall, and someone sneaks in your purse and steals it - their fault.

If you have your phone in your purse, and someone takes it and puts it outside and damages it intentionally, their fault.

The mom who placed it by the side of the pool is 100% to blame and deserves $0 compensation. If it was waterproof enough to sit in the puddles and wetness next to a BABY POOL, which is intrinsically wet for many feet outside of the pool - then it would not be damaged by a brief submersion either.

If my child threw the phone, I would offer to pay because I want to have a pleasant summer and many future seasons at the same pool.

Additionally, if you had your phone out near the baby pool, not on a table or in your hand, I think you’re an idiot who deserves a broken phone. You’re even more of an idiot if you don’t have insurance.

Anonymous wrote:while I would offer to pay, I do think you assume risk taking your phone to the edge of a pool. What if someone accidentally kicked it in?

Then that's a different situation. Don't be dense. An accidental kick or splash is different from a child purposefully grabbing and throwing it.