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Anonymous wrote:I love how all of these lazy parents claim “they don’t fight their children” when it comes to clothing. I read that, “im too lazy to be bothered with what my child is going to experience all day.” It is your job to parent them and that means directing them to seasonally appropriate clothing. If they were fully developed, rational beings they wouldn’t need us.

They will keep needing you if you make every decision for them. And then they will have anxiety because you raised them to believe they can't make their own decisions.

Try again. My child and I look at the weather app together every morning and talk about what he should wear. He is in 4th grade. We do not have battles about clothes because we've overcome a power struggle when he was 2 and 3. If you're still having to do this with your upper elementary aged kid, you need to re-evaluate.

Hi Miss Know-it-all. My child has a developmental disorder and doesnt learn that way. I parent my child in the best method that works for them.
If you go through life assuming you know everything about everyone maybe YOU should reevaluate. You're not a better parent than anyone else here, and you are decidedly a worse person overall.

Don't bother with people who will never understand what having a non-NT kid is like. Little Miss Smug can judge my parenting all she wants based on what my kid is wearing, if that's what it takes for her to feel morally superior, I'm okay with giving it to her. I have a kid who runs very cold due to an invisible health issue and often appears overdressed, and the other runs hot and drives his dad crazy wanting to wear shorts nearly year-round. We made charts for the kids to record the temperature, weather conditions, what they wore, and how comfortable they were to help gauge their on personal needs. If the Smugs are so hard up for a confidence boost, they need to judge without all the facts, no skin off my nose. We do us.

Is this for real? This has to be written in jest to the complaints about kids wearing shorts at the bus stop when it's 17 degrees outside.

My take--worry about yourself. if a kid chooses to sweat and be overheated, so be it. same as if a kid chooses to shiver at the bus stop in the winter. i don't care, even if it's my own kid (yes, wears shorts year round, deal with it).

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Anonymous wrote:I love how all of these lazy parents claim “they don’t fight their children” when it comes to clothing. I read that, “im too lazy to be bothered with what my child is going to experience all day.” It is your job to parent them and that means directing them to seasonally appropriate clothing. If they were fully developed, rational beings they wouldn’t need us.

They will keep needing you if you make every decision for them. And then they will have anxiety because you raised them to believe they can't make their own decisions.

Try again. My child and I look at the weather app together every morning and talk about what he should wear. He is in 4th grade. We do not have battles about clothes because we've overcome a power struggle when he was 2 and 3. If you're still having to do this with your upper elementary aged kid, you need to re-evaluate.

If you are still having to look at a weather app together every morning and talk about what he should wear in 4th grade, you need to re-evaluate.

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Anonymous wrote:Elementary age children? I don’t battle my kids on clothes. If they insist on shorts when it’s 45 they can be cold.

So unless you are talking about pk3/4 kids...well, it’s not a battle I’m fighting.

This... as long as the clothes are clean and match I don't care.

I don't care if they match.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting them doesn't mean controlling them. It means teaching them to make good decisions. If they insist on sweatpants, and are hot, they probably won't do it again.

Whereas telling them what to wear every day means kids who can't make good decisions because they've never been empowered to make any that matter.

So you go ahead and call people lazy. Good luck when your child rebels against all of your controlling ways.

So if your kid wants to stay up all night playing video games you’ll let them because you don’t control them? Or leave food to rot in their rooms? Or stay outside playing all night? Ride a bike without a helmet? Where’s the line? Or do you only slack on parenting when other people have to help your child deal with the consequences?

Honey, you're hysterical. Calm down.

I think a lot of this thread could have been avoided if the title had been "Parents, please check the weather and encourage your kid to dress appropriately". Most parents of elementary kids are not dressing their kids anymore.

Just my two cents.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting them doesn't mean controlling them. It means teaching them to make good decisions. If they insist on sweatpants, and are hot, they probably won't do it again.

Whereas telling them what to wear every day means kids who can't make good decisions because they've never been empowered to make any that matter.

So you go ahead and call people lazy. Good luck when your child rebels against all of your controlling ways.

So if your kid wants to stay up all night playing video games you’ll let them because you don’t control them? Or leave food to rot in their rooms? Or stay outside playing all night? Ride a bike without a helmet? Where’s the line? Or do you only slack on parenting when other people have to help your child deal with the consequences?

pick your battles, friend.

Right, don’t fight the battles you don’t have to deal with all day. That’s what the teacher is for.

Teaching your kids how to function isn’t a battle, it’s parenting. Pick your battles = I’m too lazy to deal with this

We can agree to disagree. I (and many in this thread) think that teaching a kid to function involves helping them learn how to make good decisions in a variety of circumstances, not doing everything for them. My upbringing was very much about instilling values and setting good examples and then letting my 5 siblings and me make our own decisions and live with the consequences. Drawing lines when appropriate (i.e., bedtime, limits on TV, etc), but keeping them pretty broad and letting us make our decisions. It worked out fine for all of us and we are all extremely successful and responsible professionals.

And it shifts over time. I was more prescriptive about what he wore when he was 4 than I am now that he's 7. I think screen time is another decent example. He has a kindle with freetime so I can set a certain amount of time on apps, videos, etc. Once that time is done, it's done. So if he wants to spend 30 minutes on apps and 30 minutes on videos first thing Saturday morning, he knows that's it for the day. His choice, his consequence.

Ironically, he thinks I'm way too strict.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how all of these lazy parents claim “they don’t fight their children” when it comes to clothing. I read that, “im too lazy to be bothered with what my child is going to experience all day.” It is your job to parent them and that means directing them to seasonally appropriate clothing. If they were fully developed, rational beings they wouldn’t need us.

They will keep needing you if you make every decision for them. And then they will have anxiety because you raised them to believe they can't make their own decisions.

Try again. My child and I look at the weather app together every morning and talk about what he should wear. He is in 4th grade. We do not have battles about clothes because we've overcome a power struggle when he was 2 and 3. If you're still having to do this with your upper elementary aged kid, you need to re-evaluate.

Hi Miss Know-it-all. My child has a developmental disorder and doesnt learn that way. I parent my child in the best method that works for them.
If you go through life assuming you know everything about everyone maybe YOU should reevaluate. You're not a better parent than anyone else here, and you are decidedly a worse person overall.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and instead of lecturing parents on clothes, I’d rather all of you buy deodorant for your kids. Many need it sooner than you think.

I understand. Kids are odd. They wore shorts all winter now they want to wear pants and long sleeves. My own DS insisted on summer clothes when it was freezing now he wants to wear his favorite hoodie every day. Fine, but he’s wearing deodorant. Yes, he’s in elementary school and needs it.

At what age re deodorant? Does 4th grade start to get stinky?

Varies. I have one that stunk in pre-K and one in 2nd.

Another example of women trying to outdo each other for BEST MOTHER OF THE YEAR award. We’re our own worst enemies.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting them doesn't mean controlling them. It means teaching them to make good decisions. If they insist on sweatpants, and are hot, they probably won't do it again.

Whereas telling them what to wear every day means kids who can't make good decisions because they've never been empowered to make any that matter.

So you go ahead and call people lazy. Good luck when your child rebels against all of your controlling ways.

So if your kid wants to stay up all night playing video games you’ll let them because you don’t control them? Or leave food to rot in their rooms? Or stay outside playing all night? Ride a bike without a helmet? Where’s the line? Or do you only slack on parenting when other people have to help your child deal with the consequences?

pick your battles, friend.

Right, don’t fight the battles you don’t have to deal with all day. That’s what the teacher is for.

Teaching your kids how to function isn’t a battle, it’s parenting. Pick your battles = I’m too lazy to deal with this

Right. These kids will just grow up to be adults who still dont know how to dress. I see them in big law and fortune 500 companies all the time. A partner had to tell a young associate I worked with that she should invest some money in her clothes and not wear sweaters with big, gaping holes in them. I'd rather tell my kid now then have his boss tell him later.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting them doesn't mean controlling them. It means teaching them to make good decisions. If they insist on sweatpants, and are hot, they probably won't do it again.

Whereas telling them what to wear every day means kids who can't make good decisions because they've never been empowered to make any that matter.

So you go ahead and call people lazy. Good luck when your child rebels against all of your controlling ways.

So if your kid wants to stay up all night playing video games you’ll let them because you don’t control them? Or leave food to rot in their rooms? Or stay outside playing all night? Ride a bike without a helmet? Where’s the line? Or do you only slack on parenting when other people have to help your child deal with the consequences?

pick your battles, friend.

Right, don’t fight the battles you don’t have to deal with all day. That’s what the teacher is for.

Teaching your kids how to function isn’t a battle, it’s parenting. Pick your battles = I’m too lazy to deal with this

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting them doesn't mean controlling them. It means teaching them to make good decisions. If they insist on sweatpants, and are hot, they probably won't do it again.

Whereas telling them what to wear every day means kids who can't make good decisions because they've never been empowered to make any that matter.

So you go ahead and call people lazy. Good luck when your child rebels against all of your controlling ways.

So if your kid wants to stay up all night playing video games you’ll let them because you don’t control them? Or leave food to rot in their rooms? Or stay outside playing all night? Ride a bike without a helmet? Where’s the line? Or do you only slack on parenting when other people have to help your child deal with the consequences?

pick your battles, friend.

From my own experience with two kids (3rd and 5th), many kids start wearing deodorant in 3rd and 4th grade. One of my kids is full Korean and doesn’t need it (see research about East Asian dry ear wax and the BO-causing gene) and the other is mixed Korean and white with wet earwax and when he wears those wicking shirts, his pits can stink a little.

Anonymous wrote:My DD had a sweatshirt on this morning because her classroom is freezing and she's miserable all day in just a tshirt. Also, because I'm trying to teach her to be a responsible adult, and if she wants to wear a sweatshit when it's 80 degrees outside, that's fine with me. Sure, if it's 100 degrees we'll have a different conversation. Likewise, when DS wears shorts when it's 50 degrees it's his legs and his lessons. But of course I wouldn't let him wear them when it's snowing.

I don't believe for one second what the "teacher" above posted that there were actually kids in the health room yesterday because they were playing in pants and long shirts. It was certainly hot enough for shorts, but it wasn't *that* hot.

It was 89. That's pretty hot. If they were in the direct sun not dressed appropriately it doesn't take much to overheat.