Anonymous wrote:If it is a legitimate review it will confirm that Trump & his people had multiple contacts with shady Russians that justified the investigation and warrants. Trump is stupid to keep this going.
They did alert the Trump campaign, who denied and deflected. That only prompted MORE concern.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is absolute madness. Trump's people were talking to shady Russians. That is a fact. Our government needs to know why foreign operatives are talking to our citizens. Hence, investigations by the FBI. Not spying.
The stupid is so damn strong here.
What is ridiculous about this whole thing is that our own government set up a US citizen.. also didn't alert the Trump campaign or Trump about any of this. Very sketchy at best and WRONG!
Anonymous wrote:This is absolute madness. Trump's people were talking to shady Russians. That is a fact. Our government needs to know why foreign operatives are talking to our citizens. Hence, investigations by the FBI. Not spying.
The stupid is so damn strong here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:51 - If you think this makes Trump look bad, I vehemently disagree. What it does is shows how bad the information was that Steele was given and passed along. Then, this information was used to secure warrants to spy on Americans.
What in it has been disproven?
Gates confirmed the Manafort link.
The AlfaBank server issue has been known since November of 2016.
Neither has been proven false.
AlfaBank: https://www.apnews.com/cd2da448a9db6af11d8c10e9c3f3495b
The Clinton campaign’s operation to spread a now-debunked story on a Russian bank-Donald Trump computer linkage went further than previously known, according to new congressional testimony.
It turns out that at least two Clinton operatives went inside the Justice Department to sell the allegation.
The Democrat-pitched narrative went like this: The Trump Organization maintained a secret computer server at Trump Tower directly tied to Moscow’s Alfa Bank, whose partners are linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
But cybersleuths traced the server’s IP address not to Moscow, but to a spam operation outside Philadelphia that spit out hotel marketing pitches, including the Trump Organization’s.
It is known that Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, the Clinton campaign’s opposition researcher who hired dossier writer Christopher Steele, pushed the server plot to then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr. His wife, Nellie, worked for Mr. Simpson at Fusion GPS as an anti-Trump Russia investigator.
According to Mr. Ohr’s meeting notes, Mr. Simpson told him the server was a direct communication link to Alfa and proof of Trump-Russia collusion. Mr. Simpson also said an October 2016 article in The New York Times was wrong for discounting the server story, according to Mr. Ohr.
As a go-between, Mr. Ohr sent Fusion’s information directly to the FBI, including to agent Peter Strzok, who led the Russia probe. Mr. Strzok was fired for sending a series of anti-Trump text messages to his lover, FBI attorney Lisa Page.
Now, newly revealed testimony from James Baker, the former FBI general counsel and close adviser to fired FBI Director James B. Comey, shows that Fusion tried another avenue inside the Obama administration.
https://www.apnews.com/cd2da448a9db6af11d8c10e9c3f3495b
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:51 - If you think this makes Trump look bad, I vehemently disagree. What it does is shows how bad the information was that Steele was given and passed along. Then, this information was used to secure warrants to spy on Americans.
What in it has been disproven?
Gates confirmed the Manafort link.
The AlfaBank server issue has been known since November of 2016.
Neither has been proven false.
The Clinton campaign’s operation to spread a now-debunked story on a Russian bank-Donald Trump computer linkage went further than previously known, according to new congressional testimony.
It turns out that at least two Clinton operatives went inside the Justice Department to sell the allegation.
The Democrat-pitched narrative went like this: The Trump Organization maintained a secret computer server at Trump Tower directly tied to Moscow’s Alfa Bank, whose partners are linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
But cybersleuths traced the server’s IP address not to Moscow, but to a spam operation outside Philadelphia that spit out hotel marketing pitches, including the Trump Organization’s.
It is known that Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, the Clinton campaign’s opposition researcher who hired dossier writer Christopher Steele, pushed the server plot to then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr. His wife, Nellie, worked for Mr. Simpson at Fusion GPS as an anti-Trump Russia investigator.
According to Mr. Ohr’s meeting notes, Mr. Simpson told him the server was a direct communication link to Alfa and proof of Trump-Russia collusion. Mr. Simpson also said an October 2016 article in The New York Times was wrong for discounting the server story, according to Mr. Ohr.
As a go-between, Mr. Ohr sent Fusion’s information directly to the FBI, including to agent Peter Strzok, who led the Russia probe. Mr. Strzok was fired for sending a series of anti-Trump text messages to his lover, FBI attorney Lisa Page.
Now, newly revealed testimony from James Baker, the former FBI general counsel and close adviser to fired FBI Director James B. Comey, shows that Fusion tried another avenue inside the Obama administration.
Anonymous wrote:20:51 - If you think this makes Trump look bad, I vehemently disagree. What it does is shows how bad the information was that Steele was given and passed along. Then, this information was used to secure warrants to spy on Americans.
Anonymous wrote:Note from Steele's meeting with the FBI in October 2016
https://www.scribd.com/document/409446360/CU-FOIA-Document-Release-Kavalec-Memo-Related-Records
I really don't understand how this helps Trump's cause. Pretty damning stuff in there, some provides more detail than before, some is new.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Between Bush 43, Obama, and Trump, it is a wonder this country has not had a civil war. Each is so corrupt, it's like the Wiemar Republic.
Obama has zero indictments or convictions in his 8 years in office. Neither of the Bush's nor Trump can claim the same, and for Trump it has been just over 2 years.
We'll see what transpires over the coming months. That claim may not stand.
And, let's not forget that Gregory Craig, ex-Obama legal counsel was recently indicted. For lying about what he did in 2012. So, there's that.
Are you deliberately lying or do you actually think that?
Lol.
He was indicted for lies related to work he did for Manafort in Ukraine.
What exactly did I say that is a lie?
Craig is charged with lying during an Oct. 19, 2017, interview with the special counsel’s office about the nature of work he did for the Ukrainian government in 2012 and 2013, while he was a senior partner at the law firm Skadden Arps. Craig left the firm in April of 2018.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/obama-white-house-counsel-gregory-craig-charged-by-federal-prosecutors.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Between Bush 43, Obama, and Trump, it is a wonder this country has not had a civil war. Each is so corrupt, it's like the Wiemar Republic.
Obama has zero indictments or convictions in his 8 years in office. Neither of the Bush's nor Trump can claim the same, and for Trump it has been just over 2 years.
We'll see what transpires over the coming months. That claim may not stand.
And, let's not forget that Gregory Craig, ex-Obama legal counsel was recently indicted. For lying about what he did in 2012. So, there's that.
Are you deliberately lying or do you actually think that?
Lol.
He was indicted for lies related to work he did for Manafort in Ukraine.
What exactly did I say that is a lie?
Craig is charged with lying during an Oct. 19, 2017, interview with the special counsel’s office about the nature of work he did for the Ukrainian government in 2012 and 2013, while he was a senior partner at the law firm Skadden Arps. Craig left the firm in April of 2018.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/obama-white-house-counsel-gregory-craig-charged-by-federal-prosecutors.html