Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:32
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
He had great recommendation from his odyssey of mind teacher too along with singing teacher. He also had an outstanding student award in karate. The areas of extra curricular are his areas he selected. He dislikes sports soccer etc, he is interested in chess and we send him to what he is interested in.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:27
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
With those scores, the kid belongs in AAP for sure. Child may or may not be gifted, but is definitely advanced. Maybe this child would have been accepted last year with those high scores. But this year, they seem to have put heavier weighting on other things. Maybe his GBRS was lower, report card wasn't reflective of his capability and given poor work samples, they might have marked ineligible, thinking that kid will appeal with WISC. Very baffling.
I disagree with this. I've been reading these AAP admission threads for years and this year doesn't seem much different than other years, although there seem to be fewer posts overall, In or Not In. So the handful of Not Ins with high scores are easier to see this year, although there are always some, for whatever reason (deliberate, mistake?).
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:26
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This kid had a 119 overall Cogat and a low 100s NNAT, those are pretty low scores IMO.
Scores that low in AAP aren't as rare as you might imagine. One of my kid's friends got in with a CogAT of 120. That kid is doing fine in AAP.
By far the hardest part of AAP is getting in through the mystery process.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:24
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
How could a second grader be doing Odyssey of the Mind? It is not even offered at most schools, and then for older grades.
Most people don't list Kumon, prep schools, tutoring on their kids' applications.
Oh, it’s offered at our based school and center school starting in K. I didn’t realize it is not like that through FCPS.
Our base school has zero academic enrichment like that except thru private club vendors. Our center school doesn’t even have it. You are lucky.
You could start if you want
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:24
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
With those scores, the kid belongs in AAP for sure. Child may or may not be gifted, but is definitely advanced. Maybe this child would have been accepted last year with those high scores. But this year, they seem to have put heavier weighting on other things. Maybe his GBRS was lower, report card wasn't reflective of his capability and given poor work samples, they might have marked ineligible, thinking that kid will appeal with WISC. Very baffling.
They have never seemed to base anything on report cards before. Most kids have all 4s and with the canned comments, they are meaningless.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:24
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
Maybe, but just to play devils advocate....if a kid is amazing at math, there probably won't be any school work samples that will show that, because second grade math is so basic.
My kid got a 136 on Cogat Quant. I didn’t submit any math samples because I didn’t think that was needed. I submitted only one work sample myself - which was artwork sent home from art class which was based on a book he read on his own at home.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:23
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
How could a second grader be doing Odyssey of the Mind? It is not even offered at most schools, and then for older grades.
Most people don't list Kumon, prep schools, tutoring on their kids' applications.
Oh, it’s offered at our based school and center school starting in K. I didn’t realize it is not like that through FCPS.
Our base school has zero academic enrichment like that except thru private club vendors. Our center school doesn’t even have it. You are lucky.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:23
Subject: Re:Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
So very glad I don’t live in Fairfax County.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:22
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
With those scores, the kid belongs in AAP for sure. Child may or may not be gifted, but is definitely advanced. Maybe this child would have been accepted last year with those high scores. But this year, they seem to have put heavier weighting on other things. Maybe his GBRS was lower, report card wasn't reflective of his capability and given poor work samples, they might have marked ineligible, thinking that kid will appeal with WISC. Very baffling.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:22
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:
This kid had a 119 overall Cogat and a low 100s NNAT, those are pretty low scores IMO.
Scores that low in AAP aren't as rare as you might imagine. One of my kid's friends got in with a CogAT of 120. That kid is doing fine in AAP.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:20
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
Maybe, but just to play devils advocate....if a kid is amazing at math, there probably won't be any school work samples that will show that, because second grade math is so basic.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:20
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
I get what you're saying if OP's kid was just barely in pool. Like, if the kid had scores in the low to mid 130s, seemed prepped, wasn't creative, and had bad work samples, then a rejection would make sense. OP's kid's scores were so high that everything else should have been irrelevant.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:20
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
How could a second grader be doing Odyssey of the Mind? It is not even offered at most schools, and then for older grades.
Most people don't list Kumon, prep schools, tutoring on their kids' applications.
Oh, it’s offered at our based school and center school starting in K. I didn’t realize it is not like that through FCPS.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:19
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can they tell the difference between hot housed and normal kids, lol?
My friend's son got in with very low scores but a decent GBRS. Why is he more "deserving" than someone like OP's kid? The whole process is nuts.
Idk. This poster here says there was discrepancy between school work samples and home work samples. That probably raised a red flag.
Other things I would personally look at include whether outside activities are Kahn academy type things or more child led activities such as Odyssey of the Mind.
How could a second grader be doing Odyssey of the Mind? It is not even offered at most schools, and then for older grades.
Most people don't list Kumon, prep schools, tutoring on their kids' applications.
Anonymous
04/10/2019 11:18
Subject: Gifted kid did not get through AAP - HELP please
Anonymous wrote:
I agree. If they are going to completely disregard test scores, they shouldn't even have the hassle of the nnat and cogat. This kid scores were insanely high.
+1 Or, if FCPS is going to disregard test scores because they suspect prepping, then FCPS should pay for the WISC.