Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 12:08     Subject: Re:waitlist data up
Can anyone help explain the huge increase in waitlist numbers for Garrison? Is it just the new building? I was told it was a great “safety” for PK3 since we are in-boundary but we were waitlisted! Does anyone have a sense of how much the list moves? And when? I wasn’t expecting this but I guess it might be another year of daycare for us...
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 11:42     Subject: waitlist data up
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Anonymous wrote:I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?



You need to call them and ask. I don't know the answer.

But I do understand how it happens. The application schools each independently develop an admission list from all their applicants. However, each application school doesn't know how the students ranked them.

A student can apply and go through the process at multiple application schools -- let's say that Joe applies to McKinley, Banneker, and Ellington. Joe attends Washington Latin, but wants to try his look and think about changing. At the conclusion of the interview/application/audition process, all 3 application schools put Joe on their list of admitted students.

Joe ranked the schools 1) Banneker 2) Ellington 3) McKinley on his application. When the results come out, he was admitted to Banneker. He has no idea whether he would have been admitted to Ellington or McKinley because they dropped off his list.

After mulling over his results, Joe decides to stay at Latin for high school. So all 3 application schools are down an applicant, which they had no way of knowing. For those 3 schools the wait list isn't deep or is nonexistent because they don't want to admit students who didn't clear their bar (3.0+ 4 or 5 on PARCC for Banneker and McKinley; audition for Ellington)




Way fewer kids matched with McKinley this year than last year. Why would that happen?


1) Because of Coolidge and Bard.

2) McKinley's applicant pool is improving academically but that also causes more overlap with Walls, Ellington, and Banneker.


Also I think McKinley only recently introduced the requirement of a 4 or 5 on both parts of PARCC. It looks like it was the policy for 2018-19 but not sure about prior years.


The requirement at McKinley started for SY 2018-19 (for SWW it was only required starting this year). When DC-CAS was used, McKinley used the proficient or advanced standard for admissions. While PARCC was first being implemented it was not used as students, and teachers, adjusted to the new test.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:32     Subject: Re:waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:Is there no hope if there are no lottery seats? We are in the low teens for one of our top choice school. In previous years, it also has no lottery seats but then multiple waitlist offers. Is this because they open a classroom or students leave? Is it worth it to call the school or should we just... wait?


You should wait. They probably didn't offer any seats in the lottery because they're waiting to see who re-enrolls (and what that does to bring siblings on/off waitlists). They will not know that until May 1. And if you are in the low teens, they will have to contact a bunch of other people ahead of you. Wait and see if your number starts moving in the direction you want, and have your paperwork ready so that if they do call you, you can enroll fast.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:32     Subject: Re:waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:Is there no hope if there are no lottery seats? We are in the low teens for one of our top choice school. In previous years, it also has no lottery seats but then multiple waitlist offers. Is this because they open a classroom or students leave? Is it worth it to call the school or should we just... wait?


There may be hope - the school may not have offered seats in the lottery because they don't know how many kids from the grade will be re-enrolling. If there are available seats after re-enrollment (this is usually known by early May), the waitlist might move. (This is for charters which have more control over their class sizes. DCPS might wait until August/September since kids in the catchment can enroll by-right at any time.)
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:30     Subject: Re:waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:Is there no hope if there are no lottery seats? We are in the low teens for one of our top choice school. In previous years, it also has no lottery seats but then multiple waitlist offers. Is this because they open a classroom or students leave? Is it worth it to call the school or should we just... wait?


In my experience a school doesn't offer lottery seats because they don't anticipate anyone leaving that particular grade. Then a family moves over the summer or something and then they call off the waitlist. Not a lot that the school can really anticipate now. This is re-enrollment season so schools won't have more info right now. I'd wait until at least June.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:27     Subject: Re:waitlist data up
Is there no hope if there are no lottery seats? We are in the low teens for one of our top choice school. In previous years, it also has no lottery seats but then multiple waitlist offers. Is this because they open a classroom or students leave? Is it worth it to call the school or should we just... wait?
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:23     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?



You need to call them and ask. I don't know the answer.

But I do understand how it happens. The application schools each independently develop an admission list from all their applicants. However, each application school doesn't know how the students ranked them.

A student can apply and go through the process at multiple application schools -- let's say that Joe applies to McKinley, Banneker, and Ellington. Joe attends Washington Latin, but wants to try his look and think about changing. At the conclusion of the interview/application/audition process, all 3 application schools put Joe on their list of admitted students.

Joe ranked the schools 1) Banneker 2) Ellington 3) McKinley on his application. When the results come out, he was admitted to Banneker. He has no idea whether he would have been admitted to Ellington or McKinley because they dropped off his list.

After mulling over his results, Joe decides to stay at Latin for high school. So all 3 application schools are down an applicant, which they had no way of knowing. For those 3 schools the wait list isn't deep or is nonexistent because they don't want to admit students who didn't clear their bar (3.0+ 4 or 5 on PARCC for Banneker and McKinley; audition for Ellington)




Way fewer kids matched with McKinley this year than last year. Why would that happen?


1) Because of Coolidge and Bard.

2) McKinley's applicant pool is improving academically but that also causes more overlap with Walls, Ellington, and Banneker.


Also I think McKinley only recently introduced the requirement of a 4 or 5 on both parts of PARCC. It looks like it was the policy for 2018-19 but not sure about prior years.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:19     Subject: waitlist data up
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern had only 7 kids waitlisted, but its feeders had (6/7/8):
Eliot-Hine: 24/13/0 (made 15 seats available in 6th and 15 for 8th)
Jefferson: 106/53/53 (made 20 seats available, all in 6th)
Stuart-Hobson 162/97/53 (no seats made available)

These were all longer waitlists than Brookland or Wells (called New North in the data) and only Eliot-Hine's was shorter than MacFarland's.

I'm hopeful this bodes well for more people attending Eastern in the next 5-10 years.



So 126 people applied to Jefferson for 6th and didn't get a higher match
and 162 people applied to Stuart-Hobson for 6th and didn't get a higher match

I'm surprised how similar these numbers are and how different they are from the 39 who applied to Eliot-Hine and weren't matched somewhere higher.


Jefferson's metro access is so great, that probably has a lot to do with it.


Elliot Hine also has very good metro access.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:16     Subject: waitlist data up
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Anonymous wrote:Is similar info available for the charters?


Yes, but charters don't release the preferences (sibling/staff/founders). https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/vizhome/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay


Thanks!
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:15     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:Is similar info available for the charters?


Not in prior years.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:15     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:Is similar info available for the charters?


Yes, but charters don't release the preferences (sibling/staff/founders). https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/vizhome/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 09:11     Subject: waitlist data up
Is similar info available for the charters?
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 08:09     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Discuss:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/viz...istOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay



information on sibling and IB preferences for DCPS schools

https://enrolldcps.dc.gov/node/61


Interesting, the WL # for WOTP DCPS schools fell off this year, as a whole. Anecdotal guess, charters options are getting better and becoming more accessible. It's no longer worth schlepping your kids across town to get to these schools. Dare I say, progress has been made.


Umm, not sure.
I think it's more likely OOB students are not applying for WOTP schools due to ridiculous waitlists. Or they're strategically applying to the WOTP Deal feeders with smaller waitlists.


It's a combination of the above. Charter and EOTP options are getting better so people now have a full list of 12 possibilities. Before, if they only had 5 good charter or EPTP schools, they'd stack the top of their list with wotp schools hoping for a miracle.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 07:59     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:How do I interpret last year's wait list movement data? If a school had made 25 waitlist offers by September, does that mean they got to #25 on their waitlist, or is it possible they got further down on their waitlist because of some shifting around or some other aspect of the lottery that I don't understand fully?


It will usually be more than 25 because people sometimes get off the list before receiving an offer. But remember, siblings can jump ahead of you on the list as well.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2019 22:20     Subject: waitlist data up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Discuss:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/viz...istOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay



information on sibling and IB preferences for DCPS schools

https://enrolldcps.dc.gov/node/61


Interesting, the WL # for WOTP DCPS schools fell off this year, as a whole. Anecdotal guess, charters options are getting better and becoming more accessible. It's no longer worth schlepping your kids across town to get to these schools. Dare I say, progress has been made.


Umm, not sure.
I think it's more likely OOB students are not applying for WOTP schools due to ridiculous waitlists. Or they're strategically applying to the WOTP Deal feeders with smaller waitlists.