Anonymous wrote:PP, but that’s my point. NOT all MLMs require basements full of inventory. NOT all women who sell MLM products go to the conferences and call themselves “Momboss.” The fact is, all the MLMs are different as are the sellers and your generalizations, in addition to being false, are not serving you or anyone else.

Name one MLM with a compensation plan that's not tied to recruiting your friends and family to join your team.

And don't lecture us about social connectedness. I don't consider myself connected with someone based on a financial transaction. MLMs use relationships to get sales.

NP here. You may be correct, Pp. But all MLMs depend on women selling to friends and family, which is what so many people are turned off by. The sales pitches, the agenda behind regular conversation, the pressure and awkwardness, all of it is unpleasant. MLMs negatively affect friendships and people selling these products tend to not respect boundaries. That's the business model.

Anonymous wrote:“As long as it doesn’t involve money, religion, or politics- sure!”

I'll be filing this away.

PP, but that’s my point. NOT all MLMs require basements full of inventory. NOT all women who sell MLM products go to the conferences and call themselves “Momboss.” The fact is, all the MLMs are different as are the sellers and your generalizations, in addition to being false, are not serving you or anyone else.

Not all MLMs are the same. Some don’t require any purchase of inventory and require very little, if any, upfront investment. If you don’t like MLMs, that’s fine, but the hatred, bitterness, and cynicism in this board over it is a reflection of the pervasive anxiety and lack of social connectedness that people always complain about. Instead of harboring such intense hatred and being so ridiculously judgmental, how about simply shrugging it off, deciding not to get involved, and moving on with your lives? The negative energy you all spend actively hating MLMs and their people says more about you than it does about the companies. I read these comments and shake my head. You’d be a lot happier if you unclenched and took a deep breath.

The hatred and bitterness I feel is because MLMs prey on women. They fill their heads with lies of easy money. They make them feel guilty if their "businesses" don't succeed, and then drain more money out of them by telling them they need to attend conferences to learn how to sell more. Their model is broken and corrupt. Women who could be bringing in real money through part-time or full-time work (whether that's in a traditional sense, or by joining the gig economy) instead are filling their basements with inventory of products that don't work and that they will never sell. As a believer in the importance of women being paid for their work, I will NOT "unclench". I will keep telling the truth about MLMs and supporting my female friends who are seeking employment.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

+10000

They are jealous

Agreed. DCUM is full of these women who moan and complain how exhausted they are with schlepping to work and not having time with their kids. So when they see women who are successful running their own businesses at home, making bank, AND getting quality time with their kids, they feel threatened and attack other women.

Hahahahaha. You sound just like this woman I went to high school with who panders Rodan and Fields. #bosslady

Please. Give me a break.

Hah! There’s a woman at my kid’s preschool who drives a Lexus SUV plastered with Rodan Fields stickers. Her skin looks fine? Not any better than most womens’ skin but fine. But her hairline is RIDICULOUS. She must be using that Monet hair falling out shampoo. It’s soooo bad.

I have a friend from high school who is literally a doctor, she’s an OB-GYN working for a big practice in her city, and for like 2 months this summer she was going nuts posting on FB about Rodan and Fields. I was so embarrassed for her. But it was short lived ... she must not be selling anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

+10000

They are jealous

Agreed. DCUM is full of these women who moan and complain how exhausted they are with schlepping to work and not having time with their kids. So when they see women who are successful running their own businesses at home, making bank, AND getting quality time with their kids, they feel threatened and attack other women.

Hahahahaha. You sound just like this woman I went to high school with who panders Rodan and Fields. #bosslady

Please. Give me a break.

Not all MLMs are the same. Some don’t require any purchase of inventory and require very little, if any, upfront investment. If you don’t like MLMs, that’s fine, but the hatred, bitterness, and cynicism in this board over it is a reflection of the pervasive anxiety and lack of social connectedness that people always complain about. Instead of harboring such intense hatred and being so ridiculously judgmental, how about simply shrugging it off, deciding not to get involved, and moving on with your lives? The negative energy you all spend actively hating MLMs and their people says more about you than it does about the companies. I read these comments and shake my head. You’d be a lot happier if you unclenched and took a deep breath.

Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

This is one of the funniest posts on dcum. Anyone who believes a single word you've posted deserves to be taken. What a load of bs. The mid six figures is such bs. Step off #bossmomlies

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Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

+10000

They are jealous

Agreed. DCUM is full of these women who moan and complain how exhausted they are with schlepping to work and not having time with their kids. So when they see women who are successful running their own businesses at home, making bank, AND getting quality time with their kids, they feel threatened and attack other women.

“Making bank” by taking bank away from women working actual jobs or running actual businesses, yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

+10000

They are jealous

Agreed. DCUM is full of these women who moan and complain how exhausted they are with schlepping to work and not having time with their kids. So when they see women who are successful running their own businesses at home, making bank, AND getting quality time with their kids, they feel threatened and attack other women.

Anonymous wrote:An old friend who I haven't talked to in a while just reached out asking if she could send me info about something. She has been posting constantly about her new MLM on social media so I am 100% sure that is what she wants to send. How do I nicely respond but say no? I don't want to be rude and am open to being friends but have absolutely no interest in this scheme.

"Hi, Sally! It's good to hear from you--its been a while and I'm glad to catch up with you and the family! I do follow you on social media and was wondering if what you wanted to send was info about [MLM] that I've seen on your [FB, Instagram, whatever]. I'm not interested in [MLM] but really would like to hear about (how the kids are, how your mom is, whatever). What's up with that play Billy was going to be in at school?...."

That is clear about the MLM but also shows you are, as you said, "open to being friends." If you and she were real friends before, you'd want at least to give a shot to letting her know that. Many posted here will say no, ignore entirely. But while MLMs are foul, they don't always gobble up friends entirely. She may still be in there somewhere! If she responds with the hard sell, reply that you genuinely won't buy any XYZ and are interested in reconnecting as friends and not as businessperson and customer.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a bunch of haters on this site. I sell the beach body items and everyone ASKS me for them, I don’t have to solicit. I’m my own boss, make mid six figures and am happier than ever thanks to supportive and loyal friends and family

+10000

They are jealous

This is something I see frequently on FB posts by people defending MLMs. Your friends and family are not refusing to buy products you because they are jealous of your success. But, it's a convenient out for the seller to believe, rather than acknowledge the truth about the pyramid scheme.

Also, I note that no one who defends these companies is ever willing to share their paycheck, or even just state their take-home income from MLM, including the people who claim to be doing very well. This is a huge red flag.

The previous person might have sold over 6 figures but once she has subtracted what she paid to distribute the product, there is no way to net 6 figures in a mlm.

PP here. This is my guess, too. An acquaintance of mine is very high up in a MLM (she's stopped trying to recruit me, thankfully). She has a huge downline because she got in early. She's mentioned that she has close to 10,000 people working under her, which I could believe because she has a huge network of friends and co-workers. She'll post on FB about how her team sold $1M in products in a particular quarter. That sounds impressive until you do the math. Even with the big downline, though, she's still working at another f/t job and I happen to know she's leveraged to the hilt and living way beyond her means. I would be surprised if she's making $3k/month after expenses.

The very successful person they profiled on The Dream podcast was making either $40k or $60k - not f*ck you money by any means. And she was, again, the successful person they profiled.

I appreciate that everyone is doing their best. Child care in this country is a nightmare. It's expensive and not high quality. A lot of women would love to work from home, take care of their kids, maintain a career, and still also be able to earn some money.

But some of the sales are insulting. "You were born in the 70's and used to wear these shoes (insert picture of black slide shoes). How about some skin cream? You are old enough!" Or "I know you just had a baby. How about online fitness coaching and subscribing to these healthy shakes? Get your body back!"

I've struggled with self image and a bad eating disorder most of my life. When people ask me if I want to lose weight and get in shape, or if I want to reduce the circles under my eyes, that is the last you will ever hear from me.

MLM's and pandering to women is not a sustaining career. I'd almost rather you ask me to contribute to a gofundme than a product that I will never need past 30 days of purchase.