Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:20
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't care. Do you?
Do I care that the odds favorite to become the next potus, the first female potus, just saw her political career implode? Yeah, I kinda do care.
You care that she lied on her app 40 years ago but don't care that our current POTUS is the biggest liar of them all, lies about our IC and other national security concerns? ok. I see where your priorities are.
Woman lies = OMG this is huge
Man lies = what's the big deal.. it's hyperbole.. what he reeaaally meant was xyz
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:20
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't care. Do you?
Do you think that was okay and honest?
you're kidding, right? You want to talk about "honesty".. um okay.. how about honesty from our POTUS. This app was.. what... 40 years ago? FFS.
First of all, nice whataboutism.
Secondly, are you one of the morons outraged about what Northam - and/or Kavanaugh - had in their yearbooks, 35+ yrs. ago?
-DP
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:19
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Shameful. Frankly, I think this is worse than what Northam has been accused of doing.
She blatantly lied.
You think this is worse than being in blackface or dressing in a KKK outfit? JFC!
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:19
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Today the Cherokee Nations is more than 355,000 citizens strong, young and old. To be eligible for Cherokee Nation citizenship, individuals must provide documents connecting them to an enrolled direct ancestor who is listed on the Dawes Roll. CDIB/Tribal Citizenship is traced through natural parents. In cases of adoption, CDIB/Citizenship must be proven through a biological parent to an ancestor registered on the Dawes Roll.
https://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
That's for claiming membership in the tribe. Not ancestry or descent. These are very different things. For example, many people discover that they have Jewish ancestry through genetic testing. They might not be able marry in a synagogue, or study to be a rabbi, or be buried in a Jewish cemetery - unless they formally convert. But I don't get to tell them that they can't claim to be of Jewish descent.
Except Warren has claimed to BE Native American.
THIS. The question was, what race are you? And her answer was flatly: American Indian. That takes an incredible amount of nerve.
At this point, she would be criticized if she put Caucasian and criticized if she put American Indian. Too bad writing in more than one thing wasn't really a thing back then.
Umm, how would she be criticized for putting Caucasian down? She *is* Caucasian. You apologists are something else.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:18
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who careas? It’s not like bar applications are a selective process and they can only admit so many so she got some kind of edge identifying as American Indian. This is truly a situation where it didn’t help or hurt her, it just was. If anything, this substantiates to me that she really did identify as American Indian if she’s using it in contexts where it doesn’t matter.
Wow, that's some impressive pretzel twisting there!
In other words, you have no substantive response.
I'm going to claim my race is African-American on the next form that asks. Even though my only known AA ancestor was from the 1700's. Sound good?
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:17
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't care. Do you?
Do you think that was okay and honest?
you're kidding, right? You want to talk about "honesty".. um okay.. how about honesty from our POTUS. This app was.. what... 40 years ago? FFS.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:16
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And she IS Native American.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Today the Cherokee Nations is more than 355,000 citizens strong, young and old. To be eligible for Cherokee Nation citizenship, individuals must provide documents connecting them to an enrolled direct ancestor who is listed on the Dawes Roll. CDIB/Tribal Citizenship is traced through natural parents. In cases of adoption, CDIB/Citizenship must be proven through a biological parent to an ancestor registered on the Dawes Roll.
https://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
That's for claiming membership in the tribe. Not ancestry or descent. These are very different things. For example, many people discover that they have Jewish ancestry through genetic testing. They might not be able marry in a synagogue, or study to be a rabbi, or be buried in a Jewish cemetery - unless they formally convert. But I don't get to tell them that they can't claim to be of Jewish descent.
Except Warren has claimed to BE Native American.
Sure she is. That’s exactly why she’s apologizing publicly for claiming to be Native American; because she’s Native American.
Are you familiar with the term BEC? Elizabeth Warren is your BEC.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BEC
Elizabeth Warren is a liar who has been exposed as a cracker.
Just own it. It is okay.
'If I saw Trump across the room, I would be like, look at that liar drooling on his cracker.'
You would be, like?
Ah, now I get it.
And that comment was lovely insight in to YOU. Thank you for that.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:15
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Elizabeth Warren apologizes for identifying as Native American
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on Tuesday apologized for previously identifying as Native American.
Warren, who apologized recently to the Cherokee Nation for taking a DNA test to show that she had Native American ancestry, told The Washington Post that the apology was meant to include identifying herself as Native American while at a professor at Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania.
"I told him I was sorry for furthering confusion about tribal citizenship," Warren told the Post. "I am also sorry for not being more mindful about this decades ago. We had a good conversation."
"I can't go back," Warren also told the newspaper. "But I am sorry for furthering confusion on tribal sovereignty and tribal citizenship and harm that resulted."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/senate/428615-elizabeth-warren-apologizes-for-identifying-as-native-american%3famp
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on Tuesday apologized for previously identifying as Native American.
Warren, who apologized recently to the Cherokee Nation for taking a DNA test to show that she had Native American ancestry, told The Washington Post that the apology was meant to include identifying herself as Native American while at a professor at Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania.
"I told him I was sorry for furthering confusion about tribal citizenship," Warren told the Post. "I am also sorry for not being more mindful about this decades ago. We had a good conversation."
"I can't go back," Warren also told the newspaper. "But I am sorry for furthering confusion on tribal sovereignty and tribal citizenship and harm that resulted."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/senate/428615-elizabeth-warren-apologizes-for-identifying-as-native-american%3famp
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:15
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And she IS Native American.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Today the Cherokee Nations is more than 355,000 citizens strong, young and old. To be eligible for Cherokee Nation citizenship, individuals must provide documents connecting them to an enrolled direct ancestor who is listed on the Dawes Roll. CDIB/Tribal Citizenship is traced through natural parents. In cases of adoption, CDIB/Citizenship must be proven through a biological parent to an ancestor registered on the Dawes Roll.
https://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
That's for claiming membership in the tribe. Not ancestry or descent. These are very different things. For example, many people discover that they have Jewish ancestry through genetic testing. They might not be able marry in a synagogue, or study to be a rabbi, or be buried in a Jewish cemetery - unless they formally convert. But I don't get to tell them that they can't claim to be of Jewish descent.
Except Warren has claimed to BE Native American.
No it’s not, honey, she has far more Native ancestry than you.
Oh, honey. That's like me (a white person) claiming to be Chinese because I have 0.000001% Chinese in my DNA. Give it up.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:15
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shameful. Frankly, I think this is worse than what Northam has been accused of doing.
She blatantly lied.
I totally agree. And I'm a conservative who sees no need for Northam to resign. This, however, is really beyond the pale. Pun intended.
WTH? You are crazy.
Really? Are you part of the witch hunt demanding Northam resign?
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:15
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shameful. Frankly, I think this is worse than what Northam has been accused of doing.
She blatantly lied.
I totally agree. And I'm a conservative who sees no need for Northam to resign. This, however, is really beyond the pale. Pun intended.
WTH? You are crazy.
Nope. Not crazy at all.
She blatantly lied and said her RACE was American Indian. Really?
How many other times has she lied? I think this is the tip of the iceberg.
PLEASE answer how it is worse for her to self identify as something that she has heritage of than for someone to commit blatantly racist acts like put on blackface. (Which Northam has admitted, BTW, not just been accused of. He admitted it at the press conference.) PLEASE explain if you can. I would love to hear this.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:15
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who careas? It’s not like bar applications are a selective process and they can only admit so many so she got some kind of edge identifying as American Indian. This is truly a situation where it didn’t help or hurt her, it just was. If anything, this substantiates to me that she really did identify as American Indian if she’s using it in contexts where it doesn’t matter.
Oh don't be dense. Elizabeth Warren is obviously a white woman and obviously identifies as such. Even if she heard that she had a great great great grandparent that was Native American everyone in her family is white. There's no way she really saw herself as Native American. What she did is really quite galling. It's the kind of thing that people make jokes about doing, but no one actually has the nerve to do.
Was it? Or was it grandma?
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:13
Subject: Re:WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Who careas? It’s not like bar applications are a selective process and they can only admit so many so she got some kind of edge identifying as American Indian. This is truly a situation where it didn’t help or hurt her, it just was. If anything, this substantiates to me that she really did identify as American Indian if she’s using it in contexts where it doesn’t matter.
Oh don't be dense. Elizabeth Warren is obviously a white woman and obviously identifies as such. Even if she heard that she had a great great great grandparent that was Native American everyone in her family is white. There's no way she really saw herself as Native American. What she did is really quite galling. It's the kind of thing that people make jokes about doing, but no one actually has the nerve to do.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:13
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And she IS Native American.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Today the Cherokee Nations is more than 355,000 citizens strong, young and old. To be eligible for Cherokee Nation citizenship, individuals must provide documents connecting them to an enrolled direct ancestor who is listed on the Dawes Roll. CDIB/Tribal Citizenship is traced through natural parents. In cases of adoption, CDIB/Citizenship must be proven through a biological parent to an ancestor registered on the Dawes Roll.
https://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
That's for claiming membership in the tribe. Not ancestry or descent. These are very different things. For example, many people discover that they have Jewish ancestry through genetic testing. They might not be able marry in a synagogue, or study to be a rabbi, or be buried in a Jewish cemetery - unless they formally convert. But I don't get to tell them that they can't claim to be of Jewish descent.
Except Warren has claimed to BE Native American.
Sure she is. That’s exactly why she’s apologizing publicly for claiming to be Native American; because she’s Native American.
Are you familiar with the term BEC? Elizabeth Warren is your BEC.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BEC
Elizabeth Warren is a liar who has been exposed as a cracker.
Just own it. It is okay.
'If I saw Trump across the room, I would be like, look at that liar drooling on his cracker.'
You would be, like?
Ah, now I get it.
Anonymous
02/05/2019 21:13
Subject: WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Today the Cherokee Nations is more than 355,000 citizens strong, young and old. To be eligible for Cherokee Nation citizenship, individuals must provide documents connecting them to an enrolled direct ancestor who is listed on the Dawes Roll. CDIB/Tribal Citizenship is traced through natural parents. In cases of adoption, CDIB/Citizenship must be proven through a biological parent to an ancestor registered on the Dawes Roll.
https://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal-Citizenship
That's for claiming membership in the tribe. Not ancestry or descent. These are very different things. For example, many people discover that they have Jewish ancestry through genetic testing. They might not be able marry in a synagogue, or study to be a rabbi, or be buried in a Jewish cemetery - unless they formally convert. But I don't get to tell them that they can't claim to be of Jewish descent.
Except Warren has claimed to BE Native American.
THIS. The question was, what race are you? And her answer was flatly: American Indian. That takes an incredible amount of nerve.
At this point, she would be criticized if she put Caucasian and criticized if she put American Indian. Too bad writing in more than one thing wasn't really a thing back then.