Anonymous
02/07/2019 12:18
Subject: Re:Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Kids are lazy these days. I remember how long it took me to apply to the 4 colleges I applied to back in 1993. Each one had separate essays and none of them were the same. It was just a lot more work back then.
Not my kid. Even though the common ap was available, I made him type each application from start to finish on my old Smith Corona.
Your logic has failed:
Why do you think it is the kids who are lazy if the schools changed the approach? Maybe they are, but it isn't because someone changed the requirements.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 12:11
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
It’s hardly world class but I certainly can’t fault them for their motives butthere are many unintended consequences of their strategy.
You mean, as in your kid can't count on it as safety anymore?
Lol....my children didn’t need safeties and had they not gotten into their ED choices they certainly wouldn’t have applied to Tulane. The unintended consequences is that when you effectively purchase high stat students through generous merit aid, you’re going to have an impact on diversity.
You clearly don't know anything about Tulane. They offer a serious tuition break for in-state students even though they are a private institution. They are very committed to diversity and offering opportunities to students from Louisiana, especially those that are financially disadvantaged.
Something else to note. My DS had some serious medical issues their freshman year and I can't tell you how helpful and accommodating the school was to him. If not, I highly doubt he would have been able to go back sophomore year. A good friend's son had very similar issues at UMD and was basically told, that's your problem, figure it out. There was very little empathy at UMD. So glad my child didn't go there even though they were admitted.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 11:01
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
It’s hardly world class but I certainly can’t fault them for their motives butthere are many unintended consequences of their strategy.
You mean, as in your kid can't count on it as safety anymore?
Lol....my children didn’t need safeties and had they not gotten into their ED choices they certainly wouldn’t have applied to Tulane. The unintended consequences is that when you effectively purchase high stat students through generous merit aid, you’re going to have an impact on diversity.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 10:09
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
It’s a Jewish party school. People around here will pay for that, as most southern schools are very Christian based.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 09:53
Subject: Re:Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I confused as to why we see these numbers at Tulane but not at schools like Lehigh, or other schools on that level.
It’s well known that Tulane spends huge amounts of money on merit aid.
Tulane knows exactly what they are doing. By offering large amounts of merit to the higher stat students they want to attract, they are absolutely building a better school. We also know from personal experience that they want students who have shown an interest in them and they also really like kids with a lot of community service. As other's have mentioned, lots of things changed after Katrina and they are really big on "giving back" to the community. They specifically have a service learning component that all students must fulfill to graduate. It's really not the same school that it was 10-15 years ago. And yes, kids party, but they party everywhere.
Anonymous
02/07/2019 09:01
Subject: Re:Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:I confused as to why we see these numbers at Tulane but not at schools like Lehigh, or other schools on that level.
It’s well known that Tulane spends huge amounts of money on merit aid.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 20:18
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid got deferred. She was upset at first as her stats were significantly above the averages in Naviance. But she never visited or showed any real interest. Unless she gets accepted with a phenomenal package, she won’t be going there. I think Tulane admissions had figured all this out when they deferred her.
Same to our close friend’s son. They knew what they were to him and weren’t having it.
Same here for our son who had stats way above their average. Upon deferral, they ask the student to reiterate interest (and they urge you to visit); they are very clear that if you fail to do so, you have virtually no chance of getting in RD. My son had lost interest by that point since he was admitted to other places he preferred EA, so he didn’t reiterate interest and he will be rejected.
Seems to me that Tulane is playing a ludicrous game very well. Along with other “rising” schools in a similar boat, they are offering lots of merit aid while doing anything possible to protect their yield.
Again I disagree. I applaud Tulane - they make the kids take the time to learn about the school. And if you take the time to learn and it's for you and you have the stats they are generous. They are not buying stats - they are buying the best class they can build based upon a sincere interest to attend Tulane. They took Katrina to heart and there's a very strong sense of community, and service, and that's a big piece of their messaging. It's a good school and if you need merit and have the stats it's worth a hard look. I will say that we, as a family, prefer a 4 year residential experience so that is one thing that was not in its favor but it's a nice size - double the size of most SLACs and the kids have good stats so there's a lot there. And it's a nice part of New Orleans so I suspect the kids have fun.
We aren’t disagreeing. I think Tulane has lots to recommend it, and they’ve clearly figured out a formula to maximize both the stats of the incoming class and their yield. More power to them. I just think the whole system is ridiculous, and I can’t wait for the process to end for my kid!
PP here. It is a brutal process for the kids. I actually think Tulane handles the process a lot better and fairer than most. Good luck to you and your child.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 19:27
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid got deferred. She was upset at first as her stats were significantly above the averages in Naviance. But she never visited or showed any real interest. Unless she gets accepted with a phenomenal package, she won’t be going there. I think Tulane admissions had figured all this out when they deferred her.
Same to our close friend’s son. They knew what they were to him and weren’t having it.
Same here for our son who had stats way above their average. Upon deferral, they ask the student to reiterate interest (and they urge you to visit); they are very clear that if you fail to do so, you have virtually no chance of getting in RD. My son had lost interest by that point since he was admitted to other places he preferred EA, so he didn’t reiterate interest and he will be rejected.
Seems to me that Tulane is playing a ludicrous game very well. Along with other “rising” schools in a similar boat, they are offering lots of merit aid while doing anything possible to protect their yield.
Again I disagree. I applaud Tulane - they make the kids take the time to learn about the school. And if you take the time to learn and it's for you and you have the stats they are generous. They are not buying stats - they are buying the best class they can build based upon a sincere interest to attend Tulane. They took Katrina to heart and there's a very strong sense of community, and service, and that's a big piece of their messaging. It's a good school and if you need merit and have the stats it's worth a hard look. I will say that we, as a family, prefer a 4 year residential experience so that is one thing that was not in its favor but it's a nice size - double the size of most SLACs and the kids have good stats so there's a lot there. And it's a nice part of New Orleans so I suspect the kids have fun.
We aren’t disagreeing. I think Tulane has lots to recommend it, and they’ve clearly figured out a formula to maximize both the stats of the incoming class and their yield. More power to them. I just think the whole system is ridiculous, and I can’t wait for the process to end for my kid!
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:31
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid got deferred. She was upset at first as her stats were significantly above the averages in Naviance. But she never visited or showed any real interest. Unless she gets accepted with a phenomenal package, she won’t be going there. I think Tulane admissions had figured all this out when they deferred her.
Same to our close friend’s son. They knew what they were to him and weren’t having it.
Same here for our son who had stats way above their average. Upon deferral, they ask the student to reiterate interest (and they urge you to visit); they are very clear that if you fail to do so, you have virtually no chance of getting in RD. My son had lost interest by that point since he was admitted to other places he preferred EA, so he didn’t reiterate interest and he will be rejected.
Seems to me that Tulane is playing a ludicrous game very well. Along with other “rising” schools in a similar boat, they are offering lots of merit aid while doing anything possible to protect their yield.
Again I disagree. I applaud Tulane - they make the kids take the time to learn about the school. And if you take the time to learn and it's for you and you have the stats they are generous. They are not buying stats - they are buying the best class they can build based upon a sincere interest to attend Tulane. They took Katrina to heart and there's a very strong sense of community, and service, and that's a big piece of their messaging. It's a good school and if you need merit and have the stats it's worth a hard look. I will say that we, as a family, prefer a 4 year residential experience so that is one thing that was not in its favor but it's a nice size - double the size of most SLACs and the kids have good stats so there's a lot there. And it's a nice part of New Orleans so I suspect the kids have fun.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:20
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
It’s hardly world class but I certainly can’t fault them for their motives butthere are many unintended consequences of their strategy.
You mean, as in your kid can't count on it as safety anymore?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:19
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
It’s hardly world class but I certainly can’t fault them for their motives butthere are many unintended consequences of their strategy.
Hard to please crowd here.
Their aim is to be a world class university. So, Tulane is using their rise in rankings to fund their future. I don't see anything wrong with this. So many people complain about their universities lack of resources, housing, investment. These are all things we look for in a college for our children.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:16
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
It’s hardly world class but I certainly can’t fault them for their motives butthere are many unintended consequences of their strategy.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:11
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.
About the "gaming"...
If a school rides the wave of a higher ranking and it leads to more private funding (donor giving goes up), public funding increases (NIH funding etc), attracts more high stats students so the student body improves, more investment into infrastructure (more impressive research facilities, housing)...WHY IS THIS A BAD THING?
Doesn't that mediocre school become world class?
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:07
Subject: Re:Tulane sees record applications
Nice try.
Meh.
Meh.
Anonymous
02/06/2019 18:05
Subject: Tulane sees record applications
iAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They were e-mailing like nuts! So annoying, basically begged DD to apply, waved fees. Who wants to switch one humid area for worse humid and bla college?
Where did you learn to write? Yikes.
On dcum. My fourth language, so don't care.
Maybe you shouldn’t be talking trash about excellent colleges.
Don’t get carried away......it’s a good college that has certainly improved over the years but it clearly has gamed its way up the rankings.