Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 08:31     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, quite a few. I volunteered in a low socioeconomic area and the reason that some people struggle and remain low SES relates to lower intelligence. Here is what I noticed:

Less critical thinking. They tend to accept what is told to them, especially if you make it sound like you really know what you are talking about. They don't tend to really assess if what you are saying is valid in the bigger sense. Not that they don't ask questions but they don't analyze as much

Much less abstract in their thinking. They prefer factual info, straightforward info and can be somewhat black and white in their thinking.

Difficulty with (good) decision making. In the moment they tend to make more impulsive decisions rather than weighing the pros and cons, thinking back over past similar situations, anticipating future outcomes. They go with what they want to do in the moment.

Frustration. Often the way the rest of the world acts and thinks doesn't make complete sense to them. They often feel unfairly blamed because they don't really understand why others reacted or viewed them the way they did. they don't really understand why they got in trouble if they had good intentions (but did something wrong) or did something that seemed right in the moment (but wasn't a good decision in the big picture). Life feels unfair.

Emotions tend to be heightened. They don't process as much of their world cognitively so they tend to be more emotionally reactive. Anger is very common. Getting into fights. I would say they are also at times happier. Simple things and when the world feels right, they are pretty happy. Not that they don't stress or get anxious or depressed but they tend to let things go and move on. Just more contented with the simpler things in life. they don't need a lot of intellectual or cognitive stimulation

Taken advantage of. They are easily victimized. They tend to fall for scams and stories and people who are looking for an easy target. They get into unhealthy relationships and spend money where they shouldn't. They may do things out of wanting to be helpful or due to being a good person that ends up coming back to bite them

Big ideas that never go anywhere. They tend to not be great at self assessment of their own strengths and limitations. they have a dream, an idea, a project and aren't very rational in their planning or realistic about actually being able to make it happen. Then it all falls apart and they get frustrated by all the barriers that felt dropped in their way that kept them from doing what they wanted to do.

They tend to be very generous - giving stuff or money to others but without consideration for themselves. For example spending their entire check on gifts for others (then not being able to pay rent or buy food).

Not learning as much from their mistakes or consequences of poor choices. Each time they think it will be different.

Finding learning harder overall. They do learn if something really interests them and is presented in a way that makes sense. They can develop strong skills in different areas if this comes together in the right way.

Finding life hard. Everything about life tends to be a struggle. Good things don't seem to last as long and more bad things happen. This is a combination of all the other pieces together. Especially if they don't have strong support systems.


Sorry but it sounds like those poor people don't have lower intelligence just the misfortune of not being born rich or having the support of family and without any connections or given any good advice by these people. They have to have a support system to succeed is what I noticed otherwise poors stay poor. All the failings makes them lack ambition because they think they will just fail again and they got bills to pay.




Everything else being equal it would make perfect sense for low iq people to be poor. Obviously we live in a society where everything else is NOT equal, so we can certainly assume that a decent number of poor people are poor due to unfortunate circumstances. But the thing that no one wants to admit, is that most likely a large portion of the poor simply aren't smart enough to not be poor.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 08:19     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:People with high IQs can be flakey or make stupid decisions. I don't think I could pick high IQ and low IQ people out very easily. [/quote]



I don't think most people can.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 08:17     Subject: Re:Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This sounds like my brother. He's a wonderful man and very handsome. I always wondered what his intimate conversations with his wife are like, though, and how meaningful they are. She is a very intelligent professional woman in the medical field. My brother is a fabulous dad, but has trouble helping his children with their homework as it's over his head. She is very much in love with him and they seem to be very happy. They are both devout Christians and he can have very deep and insightful spiritual conversations and knows the Bible inside and out, so maybe this is what they share most. He was learning disabled in school and finished his high school degree in a vocational setting. He worked construction before becoming a stay at home dad. Their lives seem pretty ideal from the outside.

I'm not a great conversationalist myself, so maybe people think I'm "slow" too.


He sounds learning disabled, not low IQ.



This is a good example as to why it's very difficult to tell who truly has a low iq. Many people could have IQ's in the normal wage but with LD's that impact job or academic performance. In the past, these people would just have been labeled dumb. And on the job around co-workers who are not aware of their LD's they could very well be thought of as slow or not very bright.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 08:13     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's hard to know who is low iq, unless it's severe enough where it's obvious a person is mentally retarded. I wonder about people in the 85-95 range. Since 100 is an average iq, you have to assume people in this range are all over the place, but it's not like they're going to stand out. Is it safe to assume that the average minimum wage worker is in this range?


Lol what? You sound very low IQ. You do realize that min wage jobs are taken by a lot of high school students or college students? Do you realize these jobs are more flexible than others and faster to get to pay bills? Yeah i know it's crazy but some people weren't born rich with help from their parents.



Of course I do, and I assumed that the people on this board reading this had a high enough iq to understand that I wasn't referring to HS and college students working minimum wage jobs.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 00:55     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I knew a lovely gal from church who had a low IQ. She lived with her mom until her late 50s, when the mom died. She got an apartment and took the bus to church and all her other commitments (she volunteered at the library a few times per week). She died in 2017, and I went to her memorial service. The library supervisor said amazing things about her, as did her closest friend. She was a great person who helped a lot of people, and remembered them- she would follow up with library patrons as to what they thought of their last book, and what did they want this time around.
Low IQ doesn't mean one can't be loving, helpful, friendly, or compassionate.


How did you know she was low iq?


Medical diagnoses, shared by her mom to church family.


I'm PP. She also presented in person with some conversational quirks, let's say, and some fixations.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 00:51     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I knew a lovely gal from church who had a low IQ. She lived with her mom until her late 50s, when the mom died. She got an apartment and took the bus to church and all her other commitments (she volunteered at the library a few times per week). She died in 2017, and I went to her memorial service. The library supervisor said amazing things about her, as did her closest friend. She was a great person who helped a lot of people, and remembered them- she would follow up with library patrons as to what they thought of their last book, and what did they want this time around.
Low IQ doesn't mean one can't be loving, helpful, friendly, or compassionate.


How did you know she was low iq?


Medical diagnoses, shared by her mom to church family.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 00:48     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:They just process slower. It’s agonizing to someone who got it long ago. Even minutes listening to x explained yet again to the team for the lower IQ team member is extremely difficult.

While sometimes high IQ ppl miscommunicate, it’s rare. A world of unqualified pronouns is misery.

High IQ ppl are typically impatient a-holes.


Women usually get it quicker than men when I explain something. Impatient aholes is almost everyone in the dc area lol. I figure though if I choose to wait in line then I chose to wait. I can't be impatient if I gotta wait. I was ordering popcorn at the movies and a lady behind me got right next to me and gave me an angry look and started to say her order to the clerk lol.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2019 00:44     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:I knew a lovely gal from church who had a low IQ. She lived with her mom until her late 50s, when the mom died. She got an apartment and took the bus to church and all her other commitments (she volunteered at the library a few times per week). She died in 2017, and I went to her memorial service. The library supervisor said amazing things about her, as did her closest friend. She was a great person who helped a lot of people, and remembered them- she would follow up with library patrons as to what they thought of their last book, and what did they want this time around.
Low IQ doesn't mean one can't be loving, helpful, friendly, or compassionate.


How did you know she was low iq?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 23:51     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
I knew a lovely gal from church who had a low IQ. She lived with her mom until her late 50s, when the mom died. She got an apartment and took the bus to church and all her other commitments (she volunteered at the library a few times per week). She died in 2017, and I went to her memorial service. The library supervisor said amazing things about her, as did her closest friend. She was a great person who helped a lot of people, and remembered them- she would follow up with library patrons as to what they thought of their last book, and what did they want this time around.
Low IQ doesn't mean one can't be loving, helpful, friendly, or compassionate.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 23:40     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
You can have a high IQ and be conservative. We call you unicorns
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 23:35     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a few relatives and friends who I thought were pretty smart but since the 2016 election I have discovered, mostly on FB, that I was wrong about that.


So you feel your beliefs are superior to others? That says a lot about you.


Yes, I do. Just like you obviously think your beliefs are superior to mine.



Ha! I have seen more hateful vitrol from dems after the election than from any conservative. I am actually in a relationship with a liberal and have a sis in law who voted for Clinton whom I dislike but for her personality not her politics.


Well, guess what? I have seen more hateful vitriol from conservatives, so there! So much for anecdotal evidence. I actually used to be in a relationship with a conservative but that was before Trump, I couldn't do it now. I couldn't and can't stand Clinton (either one) for personality, character, politics, you name it.

What I'm talking about, however, is how gullible and stupid Trump supporting conservatives have revealed themselves to be on FB. It blows my mind. I used to respect some of them before I found out how their minds actually work.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 23:27     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
They just process slower. It’s agonizing to someone who got it long ago. Even minutes listening to x explained yet again to the team for the lower IQ team member is extremely difficult.

While sometimes high IQ ppl miscommunicate, it’s rare. A world of unqualified pronouns is misery.

High IQ ppl are typically impatient a-holes.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 22:44     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Anonymous wrote:What are they like?


They voted for trump and think classy means ordering filet of sole medium rare
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 22:42     Subject: Re:Do you know any low IQ people?
I am a gen ed teacher and I was surprised how low some of my students' IQs were. I knew they weren't bright or even average but quite a few of them have been in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to grasp anything new. They don't make connections so new learning takes forever. Sometimes it feels like the world is passing them by. A low IQ alone won't get them an IEP so it isn't easy to help them when you are the only one. I teach 1st grade and I worry about other kids teasing them as they get older.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2019 21:04     Subject: Do you know any low IQ people?
Low IQ as in intellectually disabled will present differently, depending on the extent of the disability, and everyone has a distinct personality.

If you mean lower than the DCUM average, you probably don't know who they are. Avg IQ is 100, and it takes about an IQ of a bit more than 100 to successfully graduate from college in most cases, so that's probably who your average DCUMer is, lives with, works with, and socializes with. But remember, most people in this country aren't college graduates, and you probably grew up with and regularly interact with people on the other side of 100 on the bell curve if you didn't grow up here or a place like here.

A person with an IQ of 80-100 isn't stupid, won't present as stupid and in fact, might blow you away with whatever specialized skill they may have acquired. Everything is geared toward them--television shows, popular culture, magazines, etc. They are the common denominator.

If your IQ is 120+ and you are paying attention, you could probably figure out the cognitive differences though, largely in abstract and critical thinking. A person with an IQ of 80 follows instructions at works and will need oversight and will make mistakes that need corrections. A person with the IQ of 100 can provide the oversight in accordance with an SOP. A person with the 120+ IQ is making decisions on exceptions to rules, that's one example.