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Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

The KIPP DC ED also has 20-year tenure and a whole host of responsibilities that the Chancellor doesn't. Their budget is nearly $130 million dollars a year. Let's consider the size and compensation of other similarly sized nonprofits in DC.

American Association for the Advancement of Science - $108,000,000 budget - CEO makes nearly 1.2 million dollars

Laborers' International Union of HCL - $76,000,000 budget - President makes $718,871

Special Olympics - $103,000,000 budget - CEO makes $414,853

American Institute of Architects - $76,000,000 budget - CEO make $641,757

Nonprofit boards have a set of legally mandated responsibilities when determining executive compensation or they risk losing their c3 designation. This really is a non-issue and just an example of people not knowing what they are talking about.

bullsh*t. just because some executives are overpaid does not mean that charter executives should be overpaid. also, charters are PUBLIC institutions, ultimately. their pay should mirror DCPS -- both teachers and admins. 1.2 mil comp for a nonprofit with a budget of 130 mil is obscene.

Where do you get overpaid from? They're actually paid for a job that is difficult, in a city that is expensive to live in. You want some margarita with that salt? lol

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

The KIPP DC ED also has 20-year tenure and a whole host of responsibilities that the Chancellor doesn't. Their budget is nearly $130 million dollars a year. Let's consider the size and compensation of other similarly sized nonprofits in DC.

American Association for the Advancement of Science - $108,000,000 budget - CEO makes nearly 1.2 million dollars

Laborers' International Union of HCL - $76,000,000 budget - President makes $718,871

Special Olympics - $103,000,000 budget - CEO makes $414,853

American Institute of Architects - $76,000,000 budget - CEO make $641,757

Nonprofit boards have a set of legally mandated responsibilities when determining executive compensation or they risk losing their c3 designation. This really is a non-issue and just an example of people not knowing what they are talking about.

bullsh*t. just because some executives are overpaid does not mean that charter executives should be overpaid. also, charters are PUBLIC institutions, ultimately. their pay should mirror DCPS -- both teachers and admins. 1.2 mil comp for a nonprofit with a budget of 130 mil is obscene.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

The KIPP DC ED also has 20-year tenure and a whole host of responsibilities that the Chancellor doesn't. Their budget is nearly $130 million dollars a year. Let's consider the size and compensation of other similarly sized nonprofits in DC.

American Association for the Advancement of Science - $108,000,000 budget - CEO makes nearly 1.2 million dollars

Laborers' International Union of HCL - $76,000,000 budget - President makes $718,871

Special Olympics - $103,000,000 budget - CEO makes $414,853

American Institute of Architects - $76,000,000 budget - CEO make $641,757

Nonprofit boards have a set of legally mandated responsibilities when determining executive compensation or they risk losing their c3 designation. This really is a non-issue and just an example of people not knowing what they are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

Wholly not true. You can find them right here. http://dcpsdatacenter.com/fy18_submitted.html
The budget of each school is made available, reviewed and approved by a parent body, in fact.

Hmmm nice try DC Charter control board ....you must think we are stupid

Lol! That is neighborhood schools from last year ffs.

Right, which is contradicting the idea that there is "there's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school." -- there is much more information on any one public school.

There aren't audited financials for each neighborhood public school. You only have access to the budget as set up by the budget manual, not whether the schools are being under or over funded based on demographics on a macro level. For the past several years DCPS has run a deficit and swept money from OSSE in intergovernmental transfers to get into the black. DCPS is a MESS financially and the "transparency" through LSATs is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

Wholly not true. You can find them right here. http://dcpsdatacenter.com/fy18_submitted.html
The budget of each school is made available, reviewed and approved by a parent body, in fact.

Hmmm nice try DC Charter control board ....you must think we are stupid

Lol! That is neighborhood schools from last year ffs.

Right, which is contradicting the idea that there is "there's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school." -- there is much more information on any one public school.

Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

Wholly not true. You can find them right here. http://dcpsdatacenter.com/fy18_submitted.html
The budget of each school is made available, reviewed and approved by a parent body, in fact.

Hmmm nice try DC Charter control board ....you must think we are stupid

Lol! That is neighborhood schools from last year ffs.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

Perhaps the Chancellor should make more. Take it up with the Council and Mayor.

Anonymous wrote:Wait so the KIPP Ed (runs 16 very small schools) makes more than the DCPS Chancellor?? How does this make sense?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

Wholly not true. You can find them right here. http://dcpsdatacenter.com/fy18_submitted.html
The budget of each school is made available, reviewed and approved by a parent body, in fact.

Hmmm nice try DC Charter control board ....you must think we are stupid

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

Wholly not true. You can find them right here. http://dcpsdatacenter.com/fy18_submitted.html
The budget of each school is made available, reviewed and approved by a parent body, in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.

Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't work at a Charter but know many who do. Can't talk about elementary but at middle and high, teachers are paid very low salary and that is why there is a constant churn and many of the new charters are in trouble, part of the problem they can't keep their staff. I just cannot believe the salary that some of the admin are raking in, and these schools are not the highly regarded ones we read about on DCUM. Principals at DCPS who work in some of the hardest to staff schools East of River are making peanuts in comparison and working in very difficult, and dangerous environments. These data is shocking to me, then of course there are the consultants who are connected to the PCSB, the lack of transparency at that organization needs to be investigated now. Children's education should not be profit driven..

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/21045319/dc-charter-administrators-have-some-of-the-highest-school-salaries-in-town-their-teachers-some-of-the-lowest

I've been a teacher at two charter schools for the past 10 years. I know what I signed up for when I left a 20+ year career in the private sector to be a middle-school math teacher. My annual salary is a fraction of what I made. But, doing something meaningful for underserved students mattered more to me that the 24/7, higher-paying job. The lawyer in the article who was "shocked" by her pay is either horribly naive or wants it both ways - teacher job with lawyer pay. No one forced her to take a job she didn't want. She made a choice. We all do. It's not like there was a bait and switch, starting at one salary and then getting downgraded to a lower one.

This article highlights outliers not "data". There are some 100 charter schools in the District. Most are well run and staffed by hard-working, honest, ethical people. Every year, a few rotten apples are outed. Remember the mess from Community Academy PCS four or so years ago? Each time there's a story on an outlier, everyone piles on to say the whole system is corrupt and broken.



Some facts:
1. Charter schools are independent non-profits that file 990 tax returns with the IRS annually. They're accessible easily and for free from many sources (PCSB, the school --- some, or Guidestar). There's a ton more financial data anyone can pour through about a charter school than any individual public school.
2. Charter schools are on their own for 100% of the cost running a school -- staffing, salaries, benefits, space (rent, buy, financing), maintenance, furniture, computers, utilities, grounds care, supplies, books, security, accounting, student data, etc. etc. etc. That's way beyond what a DCPS principal manages.
3. Charter schools are funded on an annual basis, period; and it's based upon student enrollment. My fellow teachers and I work our butts off because we care about the students and want our school to succeed. Why? Students = funding = staffing+resources+facilities+supplies+ . . . .

Please, please . . . focus on data and facts, not outliers and grumpy people who made a choice they don't like. The teachers at my school and the majority I interact with will be grateful.

They exacerbate the problem, but THEY I mean the DC Charter School board and the lack of accountability shouldn't have to file a FOIA to find out information on teacher salary, they are using public money. They are not private schools. The relationship between TenSquare and Real Estate developers. You can't have it both ways either. These schools could operate as private schools but they don't want to, they want to take public money then they need to allow PUBLIC scrutiny. No one forced the Charters to open, operate in DC, or take public money either...and there is nothing noble about having a majority just out of college "teachers operate in a school with 100% of children from another culture or community. Which I have seen in my time, .a shocking lack of diversity among teacher staff at some schools except for the aides and custodians!!!!!!!!

You chose to operate in a Charter so just like public schools you have to be open to the scruitiny. Charter schools want it both ways, you take the money but want to be able to do what you want with it. Sorry, doesn't work like that...

Are all DC charters the same, no but ... lots of questions deserve to be asked and answered.

Fascinating that the argument is always that charters take public money and therefore should act like and be treated like all public schools. I don't see a list of traditional public schools closing each year when they don't make performance goals.