Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 17:46     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Waiting to file a missing person’s report seems to have been the big issue here. I can’t imagine how her mother is feeling. Certainly this woman was already dead, but I’m
Sure her mother is tortured. She’ll always wonder if it could have made a difference calling the police sooner. Waiting 11 days...


Doubt it. If she’s dead (and I think she is) she was killed within 24 hours of the Safeway video. Maybe reporting earlier would have helped find the body more easily but who knows. Crazy how many people get away with this.


Oh jeez. Go back. Reread my post. Slowly...
Yes. Reporting it sooner would have made it easier for police to make their case.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 17:22     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:Waiting to file a missing person’s report seems to have been the big issue here. I can’t imagine how her mother is feeling. Certainly this woman was already dead, but I’m
Sure her mother is tortured. She’ll always wonder if it could have made a difference calling the police sooner. Waiting 11 days...


Doubt it. If she’s dead (and I think she is) she was killed within 24 hours of the Safeway video. Maybe reporting earlier would have helped find the body more easily but who knows. Crazy how many people get away with this.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 15:01     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Waiting to file a missing person’s report seems to have been the big issue here. I can’t imagine how her mother is feeling. Certainly this woman was already dead, but I’m
Sure her mother is tortured. She’ll always wonder if it could have made a difference calling the police sooner. Waiting 11 days...
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 12:39     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, her cell phone pinged a tower in Idaho after she went missing. She texted her boss to say she wouldn't be in next week and texted her fiancé, content not disclosed.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mother-of-missing-colorado-woman-says-she-spoke-to-her-the-day-she-disappeared/ar-BBQSv4N?ocid=ientp


‘She’ didn’t do anything. Her killer, the fiancé, took her cell phone and sent the text to himself and her work to throw off the trail for 11 additional days. Worked too.

Why would a mom abandon her child on the 2nd biggest holiday of the year? Why would a woman acting effectively as a single mom turn down hours at work and/or overtime holiday pay? Why would she only text work three days after she disappeared and not check in with her 1-year-old?

He killed her and she died on the 22nd.


You realize mothers do far shittier things to their kids than not being around on Thanksgiving, right? Not saying she ran off but this "but a mother would never...!" thing is nonsense. Mothers do ghastly things to their kids all the time.


Of course they do but this kid in pictures looks happy, well-fed, and glowing. She was a single mom with a professional and important job who also seemed to be making a genuine effort to work with the infants father to provide stability. This isn’t some wino loser resentful she had the child in the first place. In my opinion anyway.

Maybe she did abandon her child but it doesn’t read that way.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 12:33     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, her cell phone pinged a tower in Idaho after she went missing. She texted her boss to say she wouldn't be in next week and texted her fiancé, content not disclosed.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mother-of-missing-colorado-woman-says-she-spoke-to-her-the-day-she-disappeared/ar-BBQSv4N?ocid=ientp


‘She’ didn’t do anything. Her killer, the fiancé, took her cell phone and sent the text to himself and her work to throw off the trail for 11 additional days. Worked too.

Why would a mom abandon her child on the 2nd biggest holiday of the year? Why would a woman acting effectively as a single mom turn down hours at work and/or overtime holiday pay? Why would she only text work three days after she disappeared and not check in with her 1-year-old?

He killed her and she died on the 22nd.


You realize mothers do far shittier things to their kids than not being around on Thanksgiving, right? Not saying she ran off but this "but a mother would never...!" thing is nonsense. Mothers do ghastly things to their kids all the time.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:54     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how she wasn't missed at Thanksgiving. She seems really close to her family and it sounds as though at least her brother lived near enough to go by her house and check to see if her luggage, clothes, etc were still there.

She had talked to her mom twice that day and had mentioned a recipe. Who did she spend Thanksgiving with? She apparently baked homemade cinnamon rolls for Thanksgiving Day breakfast. Was that for just her and her one year old? Seems unlikely. She went by the grocery store - what was she picking up?



Theory:

She was planning Thanksgiving with her fiance and daughter. Broke up with fiance at dinner. He became enraged and accidentally killed her. Stashed her body and drove it to Idaho along with her phone/daughter several days later. Faked the text to work and his phone (still in Colorado). No one reported her missing because her mom was out of state, work wasn't expecting her, and her fiance staged a text that said she's in Idaho "finding herself, or there's another guy, etc." Brother might live close, but I could be missing for a month before my brother would notice. Ten days around the holidays isn't all that much, particularly if she's not expected anywhere or hasn't made concrete plans with a friend.

I would *love* it if, for once, it wasn't a trusted person, but fiancé's behavior is suspicious--up and leaving their small child? I would be panicked and distraught if DH just ran off for over a week and would be calling five different girlfriends and a lawyer.




I agree with your theory although I would dispute that nearly two weeks around the holidays isn’t much. To disappear during the busiest time of year for friends and family get togethers raises flags. Especially with the mother who she talked to twice already that Thanksgiving day. I can’t image why the mom agreed to wait 11 days to file a missing persons report but I guess the fiancé convinced her that her daughter was just busy and since he was able to show her her grandchild she assumed everything was okay.


PP here-- Yeah- some of this behavior doesn't make sense. After the fiance drove her body to Idaho, wouldn't he have more incentive to call the mom and act worried or distraught, even if he received a "dear John" text? To do anything else makes him look guilty since they share a baby. Agree that eleven days is a long time for a missing persons report, even if your child is grown.
Whenever there are weird timelines and relationships that no one understands (e.g. drops DD off at fiancé's but the three of them don't have Thanksgiving dinner together?) it usually ends up being relative or domestic situation. If it was a kidnapping or she had a secret guy on the side, I think a normal fiance would have been alarmed and called her mom before he got ever got the text. I bet she met someone else and fiance either plotted to kill her or did it in a rage.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:34     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:Did she have the baby with her when she was seen at the grocery store? In other words, was it before or after he picked up the baby?
Agree odds favor the fiance being guilty, but I’m also thinking about the poor woman lodnapped and held in a trailer. That kidnapper sent weird texts from her phone trying to throw her family off the trail, right?


Yes, the kid is pictured on grocery store cameras. She had her that afternoon and he somehow got her by dinner time.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:32     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how she wasn't missed at Thanksgiving. She seems really close to her family and it sounds as though at least her brother lived near enough to go by her house and check to see if her luggage, clothes, etc were still there.

She had talked to her mom twice that day and had mentioned a recipe. Who did she spend Thanksgiving with? She apparently baked homemade cinnamon rolls for Thanksgiving Day breakfast. Was that for just her and her one year old? Seems unlikely. She went by the grocery store - what was she picking up?



Theory:

She was planning Thanksgiving with her fiance and daughter. Broke up with fiance at dinner. He became enraged and accidentally killed her. Stashed her body and drove it to Idaho along with her phone/daughter several days later. Faked the text to work and his phone (still in Colorado). No one reported her missing because her mom was out of state, work wasn't expecting her, and her fiance staged a text that said she's in Idaho "finding herself, or there's another guy, etc." Brother might live close, but I could be missing for a month before my brother would notice. Ten days around the holidays isn't all that much, particularly if she's not expected anywhere or hasn't made concrete plans with a friend.

I would *love* it if, for once, it wasn't a trusted person, but fiancé's behavior is suspicious--up and leaving their small child? I would be panicked and distraught if DH just ran off for over a week and would be calling five different girlfriends and a lawyer.




If she was cooking Thanksgiving dinner wouldn't there be evidence of that? The fiance said he went to her house to pick up the baby and that was the last he saw of her. I haven't heard where he has said anything about having Thanksgiving dinner with her. Did she have a turkey and other fixings in her fridge? Other than the cinnamon rolls, what was Kelsey cooking?

If she was making a dish to take somewhere else and not preparing a full dinner, maybe she was planning on having Thanksgiving dinner with someone other than her family or boyfriend. Is it possible that someone else came by to pick her up and take her somewhere for dinner?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:29     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Did she have the baby with her when she was seen at the grocery store? In other words, was it before or after he picked up the baby?
Agree odds favor the fiance being guilty, but I’m also thinking about the poor woman lodnapped and held in a trailer. That kidnapper sent weird texts from her phone trying to throw her family off the trail, right?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:26     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how she wasn't missed at Thanksgiving. She seems really close to her family and it sounds as though at least her brother lived near enough to go by her house and check to see if her luggage, clothes, etc were still there.

She had talked to her mom twice that day and had mentioned a recipe. Who did she spend Thanksgiving with? She apparently baked homemade cinnamon rolls for Thanksgiving Day breakfast. Was that for just her and her one year old? Seems unlikely. She went by the grocery store - what was she picking up?



Theory:

She was planning Thanksgiving with her fiance and daughter. Broke up with fiance at dinner. He became enraged and accidentally killed her. Stashed her body and drove it to Idaho along with her phone/daughter several days later. Faked the text to work and his phone (still in Colorado). No one reported her missing because her mom was out of state, work wasn't expecting her, and her fiance staged a text that said she's in Idaho "finding herself, or there's another guy, etc." Brother might live close, but I could be missing for a month before my brother would notice. Ten days around the holidays isn't all that much, particularly if she's not expected anywhere or hasn't made concrete plans with a friend.

I would *love* it if, for once, it wasn't a trusted person, but fiancé's behavior is suspicious--up and leaving their small child? I would be panicked and distraught if DH just ran off for over a week and would be calling five different girlfriends and a lawyer.




I agree with your theory although I would dispute that nearly two weeks around the holidays isn’t much. To disappear during the busiest time of year for friends and family get togethers raises flags. Especially with the mother who she talked to twice already that Thanksgiving day. I can’t image why the mom agreed to wait 11 days to file a missing persons report but I guess the fiancé convinced her that her daughter was just busy and since he was able to show her her grandchild she assumed everything was okay.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:15     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how she wasn't missed at Thanksgiving. She seems really close to her family and it sounds as though at least her brother lived near enough to go by her house and check to see if her luggage, clothes, etc were still there.

She had talked to her mom twice that day and had mentioned a recipe. Who did she spend Thanksgiving with? She apparently baked homemade cinnamon rolls for Thanksgiving Day breakfast. Was that for just her and her one year old? Seems unlikely. She went by the grocery store - what was she picking up?



Theory:

She was planning Thanksgiving with her fiance and daughter. Broke up with fiance at dinner. He became enraged and accidentally killed her. Stashed her body and drove it to Idaho along with her phone/daughter several days later. Faked the text to work and his phone (still in Colorado). No one reported her missing because her mom was out of state, work wasn't expecting her, and her fiance staged a text that said she's in Idaho "finding herself, or there's another guy, etc." Brother might live close, but I could be missing for a month before my brother would notice. Ten days around the holidays isn't all that much, particularly if she's not expected anywhere or hasn't made concrete plans with a friend.

I would *love* it if, for once, it wasn't a trusted person, but fiancé's behavior is suspicious--up and leaving their small child? I would be panicked and distraught if DH just ran off for over a week and would be calling five different girlfriends and a lawyer.


Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 11:01     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
I don't understand how she wasn't missed at Thanksgiving. She seems really close to her family and it sounds as though at least her brother lived near enough to go by her house and check to see if her luggage, clothes, etc were still there.

She had talked to her mom twice that day and had mentioned a recipe. Who did she spend Thanksgiving with? She apparently baked homemade cinnamon rolls for Thanksgiving Day breakfast. Was that for just her and her one year old? Seems unlikely. She went by the grocery store - what was she picking up?

Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 10:35     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:So, it's possible that the fiance received a text from Kelsey several days after Thanksgiving (as he said) stating that she needed a break or some such thing...it's the only plausible reason why he wouldn't have been the first one to report her missing.

More likely, she tried to break up with him, he killed her, drove her body to Idaho (leaving his phone behind in Colorado) and texted himself and her boss? That seems to be the theory?



But does this explain how no one else reported her kissing?
How does no one else get suspicious about her absence? (Unless perhaps she had a history of running away?)
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 09:06     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
So, it's possible that the fiance received a text from Kelsey several days after Thanksgiving (as he said) stating that she needed a break or some such thing...it's the only plausible reason why he wouldn't have been the first one to report her missing.

More likely, she tried to break up with him, he killed her, drove her body to Idaho (leaving his phone behind in Colorado) and texted himself and her boss? That seems to be the theory?

Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 07:37     Subject: Kelsey Berreth-missing CO mom / Is anyone following this?
Anonymous wrote:I know that people always suspect the partner when something like this happens. And that is often who is guilty. Having said that - she also fits the profile of someone that would be sex trafficked. You would be surprised how often this happens - or maybe you wouldn't.

Lest we forget the case of Sherri Papini. Everyone assumed the husband had something to do with it - but it's now considered a kidnapping and sex trafficking case.


This is really uninformed. Sex traffickers do not routinely take white moms in their 30s. At all. This is the opposite of a typical sex trafficking incident.