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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. There are some really nice families there and we have several friends that belong there but according to them they don’t go there anymore because they are disgusted by the way several members there have treated families and children in recent years. They go to other friends’ clubs now or host dinners at their homes or other clubs now instead.

Just so I’m clear. You have several friends who are paying thousands in annual dues who are so disgusted by Chevy chase that they won’t go there. Why didn’t anyone of the several tell the others how horrific it was before they ponied up tens of thousands in initiation fees? Also, they go to others friends clubs or host dinners? Why not just join the other friends clubs? Who cares about the initiation fees when they’re paying $10k a year to NOT go to Chevy Chase. Host dinners instead of going to the club? Really? Hi, thank you for coming. We would have invited you to the club but they’re all racist. Your post is absurd.

I was just thinking that the “new poster” has no idea how country clubs work. Not believable.

Anonymous wrote:Someone asks what year was racism no longer a problem at Chevy Chase. The implication being that if was ever a problem the club should bear a stain everafter? I can't give you a year, and I am not aware of it's ever having been an official policy. But I would suggest that it ceased to be a problem about the same time that it ceased to be problem in the areas better neighborhoods, in its law firms and medical practices, and in other areas that the club's membership is typically drawn from. It was many years ago, and any people there who thought it was appropriate are likely no longer alive, and certainly play no role in managing the club.

When-ish though. 80's? 90's? 2003? 1975? I'm not saying it should bear a stain everafter, I'm trying to figure out when "many years" ago was and when you looked around and felt like racism was solved at Chevy and in law firms and medical practices.

Someone asks what year was racism no longer a problem at Chevy Chase. The implication being that if was ever a problem the club should bear a stain everafter? I can't give you a year, and I am not aware of it's ever having been an official policy. But I would suggest that it ceased to be a problem about the same time that it ceased to be problem in the areas better neighborhoods, in its law firms and medical practices, and in other areas that the club's membership is typically drawn from. It was many years ago, and any people there who thought it was appropriate are likely no longer alive, and certainly play no role in managing the club.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the area country clubs are vast majority white. It’s reflection of the wealthy, homogeneous communities they are in.

But you are attending a private function, not joining the club so I don’t see why it would be a concern. Are you thinking your spouse would be treated differently by the staff or something?

No its not. It's a reflection of their racist past. Read some history on the clubs and neighborhoods in the area please...Chevy Chase was created to keep Blacks and also Jews OUT. Why any black person would want to live there today is beyond me. Read up on Francis G. Newlands who viewed black people as a race of children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/09/29/racist-history-chevy-chase-home-power-players-like-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.f4211fbfdfb0

You are so ignorant to think this was unique to these specific neighborhoods and that the past continues today. Try reading this:

https://ggwash.org/view/41615/where-dc-used-to-bar-black-people-from-living

Seems based on your logic "why would any black person want to live there today" applies across the city.

I know it wasn't just that neighborhood, jerk. I know the history of this area very well thank you!

I'll add that CC is unique because it was created by a well known racist. Others areas in DC don't have that exact same history asshole.

And that well known racist was an ardent Democrat. As was his pal Wilson. I guess under your logic, that condemns that entire party forever.

Don't try to shift the conversation to politics - we were talking about neighborhoods and their racist past. That's what you white folks like to do, shift to make stuff about something else. Nice trick, doesn't work though.

No dumb dumb, was trying to establish the point that the notion that things are immutable is flawed. That was not about politics, it was about the possibility for change. I am sorry you missed that but I suspect you wanted to miss that. I hope I am wrong.

I like how you assume my race as well.

I think most people join country clubs for golf/tennis/swimming, not dining.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. There are some really nice families there and we have several friends that belong there but according to them they don’t go there anymore because they are disgusted by the way several members there have treated families and children in recent years. They go to other friends’ clubs now or host dinners at their homes or other clubs now instead.

Just so I’m clear. You have several friends who are paying thousands in annual dues who are so disgusted by Chevy chase that they won’t go there. Why didn’t anyone of the several tell the others how horrific it was before they ponied up tens of thousands in initiation fees? Also, they go to others friends clubs or host dinners? Why not just join the other friends clubs? Who cares about the initiation fees when they’re paying $10k a year to NOT go to Chevy Chase. Host dinners instead of going to the club? Really? Hi, thank you for coming. We would have invited you to the club but they’re all racist. Your post is absurd.

When you have large beautiful homes it can be more enjoyable to have dinner parties in the privacy of your own home and have them catered rather than at a club. We often get invited to friends’ homes for large dinner parties and they have them catered. Many people have homes which are perfect for entertaining and if they are traveling often or out at functions they prefer to host in their home when they can.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the area country clubs are vast majority white. It’s reflection of the wealthy, homogeneous communities they are in.

But you are attending a private function, not joining the club so I don’t see why it would be a concern. Are you thinking your spouse would be treated differently by the staff or something?

No its not. It's a reflection of their racist past. Read some history on the clubs and neighborhoods in the area please...Chevy Chase was created to keep Blacks and also Jews OUT. Why any black person would want to live there today is beyond me. Read up on Francis G. Newlands who viewed black people as a race of children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/09/29/racist-history-chevy-chase-home-power-players-like-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.f4211fbfdfb0

You are so ignorant to think this was unique to these specific neighborhoods and that the past continues today. Try reading this:

https://ggwash.org/view/41615/where-dc-used-to-bar-black-people-from-living

Seems based on your logic "why would any black person want to live there today" applies across the city.

I know it wasn't just that neighborhood, jerk. I know the history of this area very well thank you!

I'll add that CC is unique because it was created by a well known racist. Others areas in DC don't have that exact same history asshole.

And that well known racist was an ardent Democrat. As was his pal Wilson. I guess under your logic, that condemns that entire party forever.

Don't try to shift the conversation to politics - we were talking about neighborhoods and their racist past. That's what you white folks like to do, shift to make stuff about something else. Nice trick, doesn't work though.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a member at Chevy Chase. It is not in the least racist today. It does have a history when it discriminated against blacks, Jews, etc, but those days are long gone - VERY long gone. It is true that there are few black members at Chevy Chase. My sense is that most of the membership wishes that we had more. I think the current situation reflects the fact that most of the members socialize with like (white) families AND that many black people who could afford the club have no desire to join. I, just one example, asked a black friend if I could propose him, and he was not interested.
One further thought. The idea that the membership at Chevy Chase is dominated by conservatives/Republicans is so false as to be ridiculous. The membership is composed of Democrats and Republicans and liberals and conservatives. If I had to guess, I would say more liberals than conservatives. I am an independent who votes for Democrats 9 times out of 10. Most of the people at the club I discuss politics with have a similar orientation - not all but most.

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what year-ish would you say racism was no longer a problem at Chevy

Anonymous wrote:I am a member at Chevy Chase. It is not in the least racist today. It does have a history when it discriminated against blacks, Jews, etc, but those days are long gone - VERY long gone. It is true that there are few black members at Chevy Chase. My sense is that most of the membership wishes that we had more. I think the current situation reflects the fact that most of the members socialize with like (white) families AND that many black people who could afford the club have no desire to join. I, just one example, asked a black friend if I could propose him, and he was not interested.
One further thought. The idea that the membership at Chevy Chase is dominated by conservatives/Republicans is so false as to be ridiculous. The membership is composed of Democrats and Republicans and liberals and conservatives. If I had to guess, I would say more liberals than conservatives. I am an independent who votes for Democrats 9 times out of 10. Most of the people at the club I discuss politics with have a similar orientation - not all but most.

think about what you're saying

Anonymous wrote:Hello I was recently invited to a family wedding reception at the Chevy Chase Club in Montgomery County. Growing up in MoCo in the 80's people always said the club was racist. Not like the structural racism in society, but like out-right racism, ie we don't let black people in. Documentation from back then does seem to support this. I am now married to an African-American woman and feeling uncomfortable about attending. I don't want to rock the boat too much with the family, and want to make sure that if we don't go because the reception is being held there, I am not just going off of stuff I heard growing up. Any thoughts on the club still being racist?

You weren't invited anywhere. You're a troll who gets off on anonymously rabble rousing. Get a life.

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. There are some really nice families there and we have several friends that belong there but according to them they don’t go there anymore because they are disgusted by the way several members there have treated families and children in recent years. They go to other friends’ clubs now or host dinners at their homes or other clubs now instead.

Just so I’m clear. You have several friends who are paying thousands in annual dues who are so disgusted by Chevy chase that they won’t go there. Why didn’t anyone of the several tell the others how horrific it was before they ponied up tens of thousands in initiation fees? Also, they go to others friends clubs or host dinners? Why not just join the other friends clubs? Who cares about the initiation fees when they’re paying $10k a year to NOT go to Chevy Chase. Host dinners instead of going to the club? Really? Hi, thank you for coming. We would have invited you to the club but they’re all racist. Your post is absurd.

Anonymous wrote:Hello I was recently invited to a family wedding reception at the Chevy Chase Club in Montgomery County. Growing up in MoCo in the 80's people always said the club was racist. Not like the structural racism in society, but like out-right racism, ie we don't let black people in. Documentation from back then does seem to support this. I am now married to an African-American woman and feeling uncomfortable about attending. I don't want to rock the boat too much with the family, and want to make sure that if we don't go because the reception is being held there, I am not just going off of stuff I heard growing up. Any thoughts on the club still being racist?

You can rest assure that you and your wife will be perfectly okay attending a wedding reception at the Chevy Chase Club. I am a biracial (black & white) woman who have been interracially married for 30 years. I have attended at least 12 wedding receptions over the years at the CCC. Four of those weddings I was a bridesmaid. I have never experience racism there. Also, let's get real here. No one will be focus on you or your wife. People will be focusing on the newlyweds and enjoying themselves. If your wife is classy, then no you will not have any issues. Your question seems to imply that she is not accustomed to being in UMC or wealthy social circles. Are you concern about her behavior? There is no reason that a classy black women would feel out of place in a venue like that. I could see a person who comes from a lower class background regardless of race feeling uncomfortable there, but an UMC individual will feel right at home. Like I said, I have never had problems there and none of the black people (my relatives) who have attended wedding receptions there had issues with racism.

Go and enjoy your relative's wedding. Life is too short to waste it on outdated nonsense. Believe me, in this area white people regardless of political backgrounds are more accepting of diverse families and interracial couples than black people are. My husband and I have never had a negative encounter in predominately white social circles in the DC area. However, I have lost count on how many negative experiences we had encounter in predominately black social circles in this area. I think you are over thinking this and have got yourself worked up over nothing. I promise that you and spouse will be fine.

Anonymous wrote:I am a member at Chevy Chase. It is not in the least racist today. It does have a history when it discriminated against blacks, Jews, etc, but those days are long gone - VERY long gone. It is true that there are few black members at Chevy Chase. My sense is that most of the membership wishes that we had more. I think the current situation reflects the fact that most of the members socialize with like (white) families AND that many black people who could afford the club have no desire to join. I, just one example, asked a black friend if I could propose him, and he was not interested.
One further thought. The idea that the membership at Chevy Chase is dominated by conservatives/Republicans is so false as to be ridiculous. The membership is composed of Democrats and Republicans and liberals and conservatives. If I had to guess, I would say more liberals than conservatives. I am an independent who votes for Democrats 9 times out of 10. Most of the people at the club I discuss politics with have a similar orientation - not all but most.

New poster here. There are some really nice families there and we have several friends that belong there but according to them they don’t go there anymore because they are disgusted by the way several members there have treated families and children in recent years. They go to other friends’ clubs now or host dinners at their homes or other clubs now instead.

I am a member at Chevy Chase. It is not in the least racist today. It does have a history when it discriminated against blacks, Jews, etc, but those days are long gone - VERY long gone. It is true that there are few black members at Chevy Chase. My sense is that most of the membership wishes that we had more. I think the current situation reflects the fact that most of the members socialize with like (white) families AND that many black people who could afford the club have no desire to join. I, just one example, asked a black friend if I could propose him, and he was not interested.
One further thought. The idea that the membership at Chevy Chase is dominated by conservatives/Republicans is so false as to be ridiculous. The membership is composed of Democrats and Republicans and liberals and conservatives. If I had to guess, I would say more liberals than conservatives. I am an independent who votes for Democrats 9 times out of 10. Most of the people at the club I discuss politics with have a similar orientation - not all but most.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the area country clubs are vast majority white. It’s reflection of the wealthy, homogeneous communities they are in.

But you are attending a private function, not joining the club so I don’t see why it would be a concern. Are you thinking your spouse would be treated differently by the staff or something?

No its not. It's a reflection of their racist past. Read some history on the clubs and neighborhoods in the area please...Chevy Chase was created to keep Blacks and also Jews OUT. Why any black person would want to live there today is beyond me. Read up on Francis G. Newlands who viewed black people as a race of children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/09/29/racist-history-chevy-chase-home-power-players-like-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.f4211fbfdfb0

You are so ignorant to think this was unique to these specific neighborhoods and that the past continues today. Try reading this:

https://ggwash.org/view/41615/where-dc-used-to-bar-black-people-from-living

Seems based on your logic "why would any black person want to live there today" applies across the city.

I know it wasn't just that neighborhood, jerk. I know the history of this area very well thank you!

I'll add that CC is unique because it was created by a well known racist. Others areas in DC don't have that exact same history asshole.

And that well known racist was an ardent Democrat. As was his pal Wilson. I guess under your logic, that condemns that entire party forever.