Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Screw you - you keep trying to sell this story of Obama campaign finance violations as equivalent to Trump's secret payoff of sex workers, but that's totally not true.

Obama's violations were that his campaign received contributions within 20 days of the election, and failed to report them to the FEC within 48 hours of receiving them. The Obama campaign reported them, but just not within 48 hours, so they paid a fine. By contrast, the Trump campaign knowingly and intentionally hid secret payoffs to sex workers. Big difference. "Obama’s civil FEC infractions, while they resulted in a large fine, are legally distinct from what Cohen pled guilty to, which is the intentional commission of felonies intended to affect the outcome of a federal election."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/22/election-law-violations-compared-obama-2008-vs-trump-2016/

Trump used his own cash. Tell me how incensed you are about the taxpayer slush fund Congress uses to pay off women

Trump doesn't and didn't have "his own cash" to use. He wasn't a billionaire at the time of the election and hasn't been for decades.

Anonymous wrote:I am somewhat connected to Republicans in Congress, especially their staffers. Three big points.

1. The base doesn't care. Like, seriously. They will support Trump and aligned GOP candidates.

2. It's fairly clear that the Russians took advantage of the "southern strategy," the NRA, and racism to pick off the GOP. It's sort of obvious but not really publicly reported.

3. People are tied up in this mess. Right now the issue is whether the GOP and Trump are going to continue to stick together.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Screw you - you keep trying to sell this story of Obama campaign finance violations as equivalent to Trump's secret payoff of sex workers, but that's totally not true.

Obama's violations were that his campaign received contributions within 20 days of the election, and failed to report them to the FEC within 48 hours of receiving them. The Obama campaign reported them, but just not within 48 hours, so they paid a fine. By contrast, the Trump campaign knowingly and intentionally hid secret payoffs to sex workers. Big difference. "Obama’s civil FEC infractions, while they resulted in a large fine, are legally distinct from what Cohen pled guilty to, which is the intentional commission of felonies intended to affect the outcome of a federal election."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/22/election-law-violations-compared-obama-2008-vs-trump-2016/

Trump used his own cash. Tell me how incensed you are about the taxpayer slush fund Congress uses to pay off women

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear how the Trump campaign conspired with Russia.

Because if it turns out there's no evidence to support collusion, that makes all the rest of Trump's behavior just fine, and perfectly legal?

Some trees called, they have a forest they'd like you to see.

Well, with that logic, I propose that every president be subject to special counsel investigation for the duration of their time in office. Because just because they haven't found any evidence yet that they've done anything illegal, doesn't mean the rest of their behavior is just fine and perfectly legal.

I want to point out the important point that Trump has yet to be found doing *ANYTHING* illegal. Even the potential campaign finance violation is just that - potential.

And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Yes Obama’s campaign did indeed violate the law and had to pay steep fines. Let’s remember what the Obama campaign did because it does matter. In the final hectic weeks leading up to the election they did not always meet the 48 hour reporting deadline to report donations in excess of $1000. They did report them but didn’t always make the 48 hour deadline. Sloppy and they were appropriately punished.
Whataboutism fail PP

No fail you just don’t think it’s a big deal.

Here is an article outlining the differences
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna902921

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear how the Trump campaign conspired with Russia.

Because if it turns out there's no evidence to support collusion, that makes all the rest of Trump's behavior just fine, and perfectly legal?

Some trees called, they have a forest they'd like you to see.

Well, with that logic, I propose that every president be subject to special counsel investigation for the duration of their time in office. Because just because they haven't found any evidence yet that they've done anything illegal, doesn't mean the rest of their behavior is just fine and perfectly legal.

I want to point out the important point that Trump has yet to be found doing *ANYTHING* illegal. Even the potential campaign finance violation is just that - potential.

And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Yes Obama’s campaign did indeed violate the law and had to pay steep fines. Let’s remember what the Obama campaign did because it does matter. In the final hectic weeks leading up to the election they did not always meet the 48 hour reporting deadline to report donations in excess of $1000. They did report them but didn’t always make the 48 hour deadline. Sloppy and they were appropriately punished.
Whataboutism fail PP

No fail you just don’t think it’s a big deal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Screw you - you keep trying to sell this story of Obama campaign finance violations as equivalent to Trump's secret payoff of sex workers, but that's totally not true.

Obama's violations were that his campaign received contributions within 20 days of the election, and failed to report them to the FEC within 48 hours of receiving them. The Obama campaign reported them, but just not within 48 hours, so they paid a fine. By contrast, the Trump campaign knowingly and intentionally hid secret payoffs to sex workers. Big difference. "Obama’s civil FEC infractions, while they resulted in a large fine, are legally distinct from what Cohen pled guilty to, which is the intentional commission of felonies intended to affect the outcome of a federal election."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/22/election-law-violations-compared-obama-2008-vs-trump-2016/

Trump used his own cash. Tell me how incensed you are about the taxpayer slush fund Congress uses to pay off women

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Screw you - you keep trying to sell this story of Obama campaign finance violations as equivalent to Trump's secret payoff of sex workers, but that's totally not true.

Obama's violations were that his campaign received contributions within 20 days of the election, and failed to report them to the FEC within 48 hours of receiving them. The Obama campaign reported them, but just not within 48 hours, so they paid a fine. By contrast, the Trump campaign knowingly and intentionally hid secret payoffs to sex workers. Big difference. "Obama’s civil FEC infractions, while they resulted in a large fine, are legally distinct from what Cohen pled guilty to, which is the intentional commission of felonies intended to affect the outcome of a federal election."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/22/election-law-violations-compared-obama-2008-vs-trump-2016/

Trump used his own cash. Tell me how incensed you are about the taxpayer slush fund Congress uses to pay off women

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Screw you - you keep trying to sell this story of Obama campaign finance violations as equivalent to Trump's secret payoff of sex workers, but that's totally not true.

Obama's violations were that his campaign received contributions within 20 days of the election, and failed to report them to the FEC within 48 hours of receiving them. The Obama campaign reported them, but just not within 48 hours, so they paid a fine. By contrast, the Trump campaign knowingly and intentionally hid secret payoffs to sex workers. Big difference. "Obama’s civil FEC infractions, while they resulted in a large fine, are legally distinct from what Cohen pled guilty to, which is the intentional commission of felonies intended to affect the outcome of a federal election."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/22/election-law-violations-compared-obama-2008-vs-trump-2016/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting to hear how the Trump campaign conspired with Russia.

Because if it turns out there's no evidence to support collusion, that makes all the rest of Trump's behavior just fine, and perfectly legal?

Some trees called, they have a forest they'd like you to see.

Well, with that logic, I propose that every president be subject to special counsel investigation for the duration of their time in office. Because just because they haven't found any evidence yet that they've done anything illegal, doesn't mean the rest of their behavior is just fine and perfectly legal.

I want to point out the important point that Trump has yet to be found doing *ANYTHING* illegal. Even the potential campaign finance violation is just that - potential.

And libs forget that Obama’s campaign finance violation was very real and he simply paid a fine

Yes Obama’s campaign did indeed violate the law and had to pay steep fines. Let’s remember what the Obama campaign did because it does matter. In the final hectic weeks leading up to the election they did not always meet the 48 hour reporting deadline to report donations in excess of $1000. They did report them but didn’t always make the 48 hour deadline. Sloppy and they were appropriately punished.
Whataboutism fail PP

Anonymous wrote:I am somewhat connected to Republicans in Congress, especially their staffers. Three big points.

1. The base doesn't care. Like, seriously. They will support Trump and aligned GOP candidates.

2. It's fairly clear that the Russians took advantage of the "southern strategy," the NRA, and racism to pick off the GOP. It's sort of obvious but not really publicly reported.

3. People are tied up in this mess. Right now the issue is whether the GOP and Trump are going to continue to stick together.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am somewhat connected to Republicans in Congress, especially their staffers. Three big points.

1. The base doesn't care. Like, seriously. They will support Trump and aligned GOP candidates.

2. It's fairly clear that the Russians took advantage of the "southern strategy," the NRA, and racism to pick off the GOP. It's sort of obvious but not really publicly reported.

3. People are tied up in this mess. Right now the issue is whether the GOP and Trump are going to continue to stick together.

Do they realize our national security, our democratic institutions including the truth and the rule of law are at stake? Will they put country over party?

Anonymous wrote:I am somewhat connected to Republicans in Congress, especially their staffers. Three big points.

1. The base doesn't care. Like, seriously. They will support Trump and aligned GOP candidates.

2. It's fairly clear that the Russians took advantage of the "southern strategy," the NRA, and racism to pick off the GOP. It's sort of obvious but not really publicly reported.

3. People are tied up in this mess. Right now the issue is whether the GOP and Trump are going to continue to stick together.

Anonymous wrote:well, at least he didn’t get a blowie from an intern... /s