FPYCparent wrote:I'm not going to disagree. There is no official pro/rel in NCSL before U13 (girls) or U12 Spring (boys).

I'm merely hypothesizing what it could look like for my DD's age group if it were to happen now. Nothing more than an exercise of "What if?" that only looks at one age group, but with an intent on using real-ish (YSR) numbers.


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I just finished EDP for the 2008s (29 teams vs. 35 for NCSL). Four divisions ... South Atlantic Premier I, II, and III, and Championship South I (these have teams from Maryland, WV-former-NCSL, and/or DC). 8, 10, 5, and 6 teams respectively.

One team would jump from South Atlantic Premier III to I using today's YSR scores. In a bit of irony, it would bump a team from its own club from I to II. A few Championship South I teams would swap places with South Atlantic Premier III.

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While I haven't checked all of EDP, it seems that EDP really doesn't reach into Virginia (beyond the emergence of Barca Academy).

The next fun step (again, it's all purely hypothetical) would be to mix all non-Virginia NCSL and EDP teams and sort them by YSR scores. Top half goes to EDP, bottom half to NCSL. Would that create a more competitive, localized super league?

I may save that and anything NPL/VPL for tomorrow.

FPYCparent wrote:I'm not going to disagree. There is no official pro/rel in NCSL before U13 (girls) or U12 Spring (boys).

I'm merely hypothesizing what it could look like for my DD's age group if it were to happen now. Nothing more than an exercise of "What if?" that only looks at one age group, but with an intent on using real-ish (YSR) numbers.


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I just finished EDP for the 2008s (29 teams vs. 35 for NCSL). Four divisions ... South Atlantic Premier I, II, and III, and Championship South I (these have teams from Maryland, WV-former-NCSL, and/or DC). 8, 10, 5, and 6 teams respectively.

One team would jump from South Atlantic Premier III to I using today's YSR scores. In a bit of irony, it would bump a team from its own club from I to II. A few Championship South I teams would swap places with South Atlantic Premier III.

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While I haven't checked all of EDP, it seems that EDP really doesn't reach into Virginia (beyond the emergence of Barca Academy).

The next fun step (again, it's all purely hypothetical) would be to mix all non-Virginia NCSL and EDP teams and sort them by YSR scores. Top half goes to EDP, bottom half to NCSL. Would that create a more competitive, localized super league?

I may save that and anything NPL/VPL for tomorrow.

FPYCparent wrote:So, NCSL recently posted the final Fall results for the 2008 (and 2007?) groups. These results are only posted at the end of the season for those age groups, while results for U13 and up get posted every weekend, I think. YouthSoccerRankings picked up those results, albeit, awkwardly (some teams have two entries now, one that's NCSL-only and the one that had all other posted results from tournaments, etc.). I suspect YSR will eventually merge everything correctly … eventually. (: Maybe, I'll send a note.

My DD is a 2008, so I'm interested in seeing what grouping adjustments the league makes for the 2008s in the spring … if any. I fully realize that true promotion/relegation isn't supposed to happen until U13 (for girls, … U12 Spring for boys, I believe). If anything, I'll have some historical data to consider a year or three from now.

For the 2008 girls, there were 35 teams spread across four divisions of 10, 10, 8, and 7 teams (C, G, P, and Y <== links). Given that some clubs have multiple NCSL teams in this age group, it could be (and has been) argued that some informal tiering had already taken place for the fall, where C > G > P > Y.



Here are some things I found mildly interesting, mostly based on the latest YSR scores (as of today):

There was one Olney B&G team that was in the bottom Y division that could have easily been placed in one of the two top divisions for the fall. I think my DD's coach was already aware that the team was much better than their bottom-division placement.

Great Falls-Reston actually had an entire team classified as 2009 that played up a year with the 2008s. They too were in the bottom Y division, but had 72 GF and only 3 GA over 9 games. This GFR team lost one game (to the aforementioned Olney team) with a 1-0 score. GFR had beaten the Olney team 9-1 earlier in the season (Olney's only loss).

If you restacked the divisions based solely on NCSL-derived YSR scores, the top C division would have six teams from the second G division, one team from the third P division, while keeping three 'original' C division teams. The second G division would feature three C, three P, and the remaining G teams. Four C teams would fall to the third P division. CAUTION: The Y division teams don't have YSR scores only based on NCSL results. I suspect they'd make the top division, pushing some other teams down.

If you restacked the divisions based on their "other"/non-NCSL-derived YSR scores, the top C division would keep 5 'original' C teams, adding three second G division teams, and the 2009 GFR and Olney teams already mentioned. One bottom Y division team would climb to the second G division. Tow C and two G division teams would fall to the two bottom divisions. There are only two teams out of the 35 that don't have YSR scores at all. Perhaps they'll stay in the bottom Y division, where they were placed for the fall.

I'll re-check the numbers once YSR merges all results. If anyone really wants to see the numbers, perhaps I could post them somewhere, like Google Docs.

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While I wait, maybe I'll take a look at nearby EDP teams. Maybe NPL/VPL too.

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