Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 16:35     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11v11 fields at Muldoon’s were only 98 long x 56 wide, and used cheap portable goals. Complete joke, given the quality of teams there in the 06 age group.


We're talking U13s? Come on...we're really getting nit-picky here.


Muldoons has some fields that are on a noticeable incline so when you are going one way you have a ton of unexpected speed, and when you kick the ball the other way, it rolls 'uphill'. Dumb.


No one is arguing that. Muldoon sucks. Summerhill sucks.
Portable goals? Slightly smaller fields?
Fine with me.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 16:31     Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
For younger ages stick with the local VA tournaments who tend to do a nice job even if they don't have the same name cache as a tournament (i.e. Arlington, McLean etc).

They operate on nice fields (many turf, and/or maintained grass), and the younger crowd is the primary focus vs. getting gross fields that they can't put older kids on.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 16:31     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If one pays $2 for a candy bar, they expect a decent candy bar for it. If a team pays $1000+ for a soccer tournament, the should expect a decent soccer field condition, with regular sized field dimensions and goals. Not too much to ask for.


Talk about comparing apples to oranges...or candy bars to soccer tournaments.
I’ve been in youth soccer a long time, and when I go to a tournament, I hope for the best and expect the worst. Normally you end up in the middle.
Lots of things wrong with this tourney, some preventable, some not.
Some things worth complaining about, some not.


You must work for BSC!! LOL
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 16:28     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If one pays $2 for a candy bar, they expect a decent candy bar for it. If a team pays $1000+ for a soccer tournament, the should expect a decent soccer field condition, with regular sized field dimensions and goals. Not too much to ask for.


Talk about comparing apples to oranges...or candy bars to soccer tournaments.
I’ve been in youth soccer a long time, and when I go to a tournament, I hope for the best and expect the worst. Normally you end up in the middle.
Lots of things wrong with this tourney, some preventable, some not.

Some things worth complaining about, some not.


Yeah, I’m sure BSC will continue to love to collect your $$.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 16:28     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11v11 fields at Muldoon’s were only 98 long x 56 wide, and used cheap portable goals. Complete joke, given the quality of teams there in the 06 age group.


We're talking U13s? Come on...we're really getting nit-picky here.


Muldoons has some fields that are on a noticeable incline so when you are going one way you have a ton of unexpected speed, and when you kick the ball the other way, it rolls 'uphill'. Dumb.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:59     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This the tournament where they charge 1200-1400 to sign up a single team right?


For older AGs, yes. But the older AGs also get the better fields. I'm not a defender of the club or the tournament, but the tournament does have a pretty good college recruiting presence so the bang for the buck in terms of exposure may be "worth it" for some older teams. The younger teams pay $800-$1000 for a bad experience on terrible fields, so it is hard for me to understand any reason to do that other than collecting/maximizing Got Soccer points (and for ULittle, why?).

I'm PP above who said the club needs to figure out its prioritize and realign the tournament, and this illustrates that point.

Also, to echo something someone said earlier on this thread or the other one, I do feel bad for all the club parents who volunteer so much time and energy for a tournament that leaves so many people feeling ripped off. The problems with the tournament are not a reflection of their efforts at all.


Does it really though? I just looked through the college coach list for the girls and don't see a lot of powerhouse schools on it.


The powerhouse schools mainly go to the major ECNL tournaments.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:48     Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Poolesville forecast is 100% of rain tonight, with an inch expected, 100% chance of rain/snow/ice on Thursday with an inch expected, and then a 60% chance of rain on Friday.

If the forecast for tonight and Thursday is accurate (2 inches of accumulation), then there is no chance the fields at Muldoons/Summer Hill will be playable, and I'd be surprised if SoccerPlex's grass fields would all be playable.

One would hope the tournament director learns his lessons from this weekend and gets in front of this before all of the non-DMV teams travel down to DC.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:30     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Snow now projected for Montgomery County on Thursday (<0.5 inches).

If I was BSC I'd at the very least send a heads up to out of state teams to alert them to the potential for problems. I think if they did that then it was on the teams whether to come or not.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:30     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:If one pays $2 for a candy bar, they expect a decent candy bar for it. If a team pays $1000+ for a soccer tournament, the should expect a decent soccer field condition, with regular sized field dimensions and goals. Not too much to ask for.


Talk about comparing apples to oranges...or candy bars to soccer tournaments.
I’ve been in youth soccer a long time, and when I go to a tournament, I hope for the best and expect the worst. Normally you end up in the middle.
Lots of things wrong with this tourney, some preventable, some not.
Some things worth complaining about, some not.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:29     Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The premiere girls lacrosse tournaments have been cancelled in all or part the past three weeks, each was sponsored by a different entity and involved a large number of out of state teams, and college coaches. Bethesda soccer may be horrible, but the weather has caused havoc to more than just their tournament this month.


But you said it yourself...those tournaments were cancelled.
If I was a local, I’d rather play as much as possible, even if it’s a day or two.
If I’m from out of town, I’d rather the Tournament was cancelled.
They should think long and hard about what to do this coming weekend if the forcast is correct.


I agree with this comment. We are local for Bethesda but if two of three games will be canceled, they need to cancel the whole thing so that the out of state people don't incur the expense. This fiasco was avoidable!
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:26     Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:The premiere girls lacrosse tournaments have been cancelled in all or part the past three weeks, each was sponsored by a different entity and involved a large number of out of state teams, and college coaches. Bethesda soccer may be horrible, but the weather has caused havoc to more than just their tournament this month.


But you said it yourself...those tournaments were cancelled.
If I was a local, I’d rather play as much as possible, even if it’s a day or two.
If I’m from out of town, I’d rather the Tournament was cancelled.
They should think long and hard about what to do this coming weekend if the forcast is correct.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:13     Subject: Re:Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
The premiere girls lacrosse tournaments have been cancelled in all or part the past three weeks, each was sponsored by a different entity and involved a large number of out of state teams, and college coaches. Bethesda soccer may be horrible, but the weather has caused havoc to more than just their tournament this month.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 15:07     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:11v11 fields at Muldoon’s were only 98 long x 56 wide, and used cheap portable goals. Complete joke, given the quality of teams there in the 06 age group.


Does it matter? Your kid's team would still loose if this is a major factor.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 14:51     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Muldoons is not fit for purpose full stop. It is an ankle injury haven and when it's wet...forget about it.

A rolling soccer ball should not bounce up like an American football on an onside kick. It does that at Muldoons.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2018 14:41     Subject: Bethesda Premier Cup - What a joke
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This the tournament where they charge 1200-1400 to sign up a single team right?


For older AGs, yes. But the older AGs also get the better fields. I'm not a defender of the club or the tournament, but the tournament does have a pretty good college recruiting presence so the bang for the buck in terms of exposure may be "worth it" for some older teams. The younger teams pay $800-$1000 for a bad experience on terrible fields, so it is hard for me to understand any reason to do that other than collecting/maximizing Got Soccer points (and for ULittle, why?).

I'm PP above who said the club needs to figure out its prioritize and realign the tournament, and this illustrates that point.

Also, to echo something someone said earlier on this thread or the other one, I do feel bad for all the club parents who volunteer so much time and energy for a tournament that leaves so many people feeling ripped off. The problems with the tournament are not a reflection of their efforts at all.


Does it really though? I just looked through the college coach list for the girls and don't see a lot of powerhouse schools on it.


My comment was on volume rather than the level of the schools. You are right that most of the big guys aren't there. Many of the schools are mid- or lower-level and don't have the same recruiting budget as the big schools so big tournaments where the recruiters also can get a lot of bang for their buck are good opportunities for both sides. If you are looking to be recruited by the powerhouses, that is a different kettle of fish and a different strategy.