Anonymous wrote:OP, i hope the non-christian guy you are falling for is not Muslim. Marriage is hard for anyone, but even harder when a practicing Christian marries a Muslim. Even when they say they are not religious, it all changes when you have kids. I’ve seen Muslim male and female friends who drank, slept around, and ate non halal go on to marry Christians then do total 360’s once the children arrive. Suddenly, they want to fast and take the kids to Sunday school when they didn’t do any of that before. It’s because they can’t stand to see the kids enjoying fun Christian holidays and preferring that over the doldrums that is Islam. I say that as a non-practicing Muslim myself before everyone starts accusing me of being some racist xenophobic monster. I’ve even had conversations with my Muslims friends that I grew up with about this and asked why are you getting all worked up about religion, you never did anything Islamic in college or afterwards, but now that Cathy/Joe wants to take the kids to mass and put up a tree you’re insisting the kids suddenly learn how to read the Quran in arabic? Their response is always the same BS, i want the kids to know my background/culture etc too. Doesn’t make any sense to me and when I challenge them on their prior un Islamic behavior they tell me to shut up. Whatever, just be warned.
Anonymous wrote:Ivanka converted for Jared.
If a man converts for a woman, you know it’s because he is desparate and can’t do better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
I'm hesitant to even reply because most evangelicals know nothing about the Bible. They know what they were told in Sunday School. And they know what their pastors tell them. But I have literally never met an evangelical Christian who truly understand scripture.
Briefly, first you said "God said" you weren't allowed to marry non-Christians. But the verse you quoted was likely written by Timothy (possibly Paul). So God didn't say it, Timothy did
Second, and more importantly, that verse was part of a letter written to a specific group of people in a specific church to address a specific issue. It is critical that we read the Bible (and all ancient texts) with an awareness of history, time, place, culture, religion, law, politics, etc.... And evangelical Christians are just not willing to take the time to do that.
Anonymous wrote:Could be a troll or not. But I knew a evangelical Christian who married a Jew and divorced.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
I'm hesitant to even reply because most evangelicals know nothing about the Bible. They know what they were told in Sunday School. And they know what their pastors tell them. But I have literally never met an evangelical Christian who truly understand scripture.
Briefly, first you said "God said" you weren't allowed to marry non-Christians. But the verse you quoted was likely written by Timothy (possibly Paul). So God didn't say it, Timothy did
Second, and more importantly, that verse was part of a letter written to a specific group of people in a specific church to address a specific issue. It is critical that we read the Bible (and all ancient texts) with an awareness of history, time, place, culture, religion, law, politics, etc.... And evangelical Christians are just not willing to take the time to do that.
1 and 2 Corinthians were very clearly written by Paul. Indeed, 2 Corinthians is an entire defense of his apostolic authority to speak for Christ to the church. And here's what Peter had to say about Paul's letters' authority for all Christians: "Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:15-17).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
I'm hesitant to even reply because most evangelicals know nothing about the Bible. They know what they were told in Sunday School. And they know what their pastors tell them. But I have literally never met an evangelical Christian who truly understand scripture.
Briefly, first you said "God said" you weren't allowed to marry non-Christians. But the verse you quoted was likely written by Timothy (possibly Paul). So God didn't say it, Timothy did
Second, and more importantly, that verse was part of a letter written to a specific group of people in a specific church to address a specific issue. It is critical that we read the Bible (and all ancient texts) with an awareness of history, time, place, culture, religion, law, politics, etc.... And evangelical Christians are just not willing to take the time to do that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
So how do you see God approving a Christian marrying a non Christian in the context of that verse? How does one marry without being "yoked together"
Didn't you read what the minister said? This is "not even close" to saying that Christians should't marry non-Christians.
Anonymous wrote:I doubt he’ll be interested.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Life is long. Most people's faith changes as they age. More importantly, people can be happily married and of different beliefs. The key is respect. My DH and I have been married for 30 years. We were both evangelical Christians when we got married at 22. Between us we have been Southern Baptist, Methodist, Buddhist, Catholic, Krishna, Wicca, UU, Unity, and Episcopalian. My DH was Atheist for a while. We grow spiritually when we are willing to be open.
We attend an Episcopal Church - For now.
Yeah I know that people of different religions can "get along", its just that God says no...
Minister here. No. He/she doesn't say that. Not even close.
Hello, Minister -- YOUR interpretation of God doesn't say no, but other interpretations do -- and the concept of God is widely open to interpretation.
I agree that people view God differently. And I think it's awesome. Our relationship with our creator is ours alone. But no where in Christian sacred scripture does God say anything even close to what the OP claims. That is not open to interpretation.
2 Corinthians 6: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
So how do you see God approving a Christian marrying a non Christian in the context of that verse? How does one marry without being "yoked together"
Didn't you read what the minister said? This is "not even close" to saying that Christians should't marry non-Christians.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I doubt he’ll be interested.
Exactly. You strike me as both extreme and rigid in your beliefs - what makes you think he’d be interested?