Anonymous
11/07/2018 13:02
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.
Ok did that. Here's your math lesson.
There are 31 north Arlington precincts, and 23 south Arlington precincts. Setting aside the 20k absentee ballots, which are probably disproportionately from NA, 53% of MdeF's votes came from NA precincts. 46% from SA -- even though percentage wise, as you seem to be pointing out, SA precincts broke most heavily for him. It's he same for vihstadt, though an even larger percentage of his votes came from NA -57/42.
North Arlington elects everyone, it's simply bigger and a larger share of the population is eligible to vote. And that is why SA gets served last.
Wow, I can't believe you are being that dishonest about what happened in this election. The NA precincts broke for Vihstadt 51%-49%. The SA precincts broke for deFerranti 58%-42%. If only NA voted, Vihstadt would have won. SA bears full responsibility for voting him in.
But it's not about "if only NA voted" because that's a fantasy. It's about where each candidates votes actually came from. You're looking at marginal differences (vihstadt won NA and lost SA) but what really matters is that MdeF got almost 23,000 votes from NA -- not counting provisional ballots -- and fewer than 20,000 from SA. So who got Matt elected? That's right, north Arlington did. Not without help from the south, but you need to lose NA by more than a percentage point before claiming that south Arlington singlehandedly elected the next county board member.
Wow, you're really going all-in on this. I can't believe you can say with a straight face that the part of the county that voted for Vihstadt was responsible for MdF winning because they didn't vote for Vihstadt by a sufficiently large margin to overcome SA's strong vote for MdF. Which is it -- do NA voters overwhelm SA voters so that SA voter's voices don't count, or do NA voters not vote strongly enough to drown out SA voters? You can't have it both ways.
You're pretty worked up so I'll keep it short this time. It's not even clear that JV won NA; it's plausible he didn't but we can't know for sure the disposition of those 20k absentee ballots. I think a great number of them came from party line voters too excited to wait until Election Day and I think they were probably younger and NA too. So you're on thin ice claiming JV won NA, what with a 1% margin. What's undeniable is that North Arlington has more votes. That point stands. And lived experience bears out the reality that political power is concentrated in NA.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 12:44
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.
Ok did that. Here's your math lesson.
There are 31 north Arlington precincts, and 23 south Arlington precincts. Setting aside the 20k absentee ballots, which are probably disproportionately from NA, 53% of MdeF's votes came from NA precincts. 46% from SA -- even though percentage wise, as you seem to be pointing out, SA precincts broke most heavily for him. It's he same for vihstadt, though an even larger percentage of his votes came from NA -57/42.
North Arlington elects everyone, it's simply bigger and a larger share of the population is eligible to vote. And that is why SA gets served last.
Wow, I can't believe you are being that dishonest about what happened in this election. The NA precincts broke for Vihstadt 51%-49%. The SA precincts broke for deFerranti 58%-42%. If only NA voted, Vihstadt would have won. SA bears full responsibility for voting him in.
But it's not about "if only NA voted" because that's a fantasy. It's about where each candidates votes actually came from. You're looking at marginal differences (vihstadt won NA and lost SA) but what really matters is that MdeF got almost 23,000 votes from NA -- not counting provisional ballots -- and fewer than 20,000 from SA. So who got Matt elected? That's right, north Arlington did. Not without help from the south, but you need to lose NA by more than a percentage point before claiming that south Arlington singlehandedly elected the next county board member.
Wow, you're really going all-in on this. I can't believe you can say with a straight face that the part of the county that voted for Vihstadt was responsible for MdF winning because they didn't vote for Vihstadt by a sufficiently large margin to overcome SA's strong vote for MdF. Which is it -- do NA voters overwhelm SA voters so that SA voter's voices don't count, or do NA voters not vote strongly enough to drown out SA voters? You can't have it both ways.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 12:11
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.
Ok did that. Here's your math lesson.
There are 31 north Arlington precincts, and 23 south Arlington precincts. Setting aside the 20k absentee ballots, which are probably disproportionately from NA, 53% of MdeF's votes came from NA precincts. 46% from SA -- even though percentage wise, as you seem to be pointing out, SA precincts broke most heavily for him. It's he same for vihstadt, though an even larger percentage of his votes came from NA -57/42.
North Arlington elects everyone, it's simply bigger and a larger share of the population is eligible to vote. And that is why SA gets served last.
Wow, I can't believe you are being that dishonest about what happened in this election. The NA precincts broke for Vihstadt 51%-49%. The SA precincts broke for deFerranti 58%-42%. If only NA voted, Vihstadt would have won. SA bears full responsibility for voting him in.
But it's not about "if only NA voted" because that's a fantasy. It's about where each candidates votes actually came from. You're looking at marginal differences (vihstadt won NA and lost SA) but what really matters is that MdeF got almost 23,000 votes from NA -- not counting provisional ballots -- and fewer than 20,000 from SA. So who got Matt elected? That's right, north Arlington did. Not without help from the south, but you need to lose NA by more than a percentage point before claiming that south Arlington singlehandedly elected the next county board member.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 11:31
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:For the love of the schools, Vihstadt.
This was my thought...I'm all blue usually. Our school board needs to be totally replaced and the council needs to do a better job of watching them. They make such stupid decisions and listen to people like me (educated, wealthy, white) but who are amazingly selfish and myopic.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 11:19
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
I live in SA and voted blue, but I voted for JV. I didn't like that he tanked the street car, but I do agree he brings balance to discussions about AH etc.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 11:13
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.
Ok did that. Here's your math lesson.
There are 31 north Arlington precincts, and 23 south Arlington precincts. Setting aside the 20k absentee ballots, which are probably disproportionately from NA, 53% of MdeF's votes came from NA precincts. 46% from SA -- even though percentage wise, as you seem to be pointing out, SA precincts broke most heavily for him. It's he same for vihstadt, though an even larger percentage of his votes came from NA -57/42.
North Arlington elects everyone, it's simply bigger and a larger share of the population is eligible to vote. And that is why SA gets served last.
Wow, I can't believe you are being that dishonest about what happened in this election. The NA precincts broke for Vihstadt 51%-49%. The SA precincts broke for deFerranti 58%-42%. If only NA voted, Vihstadt would have won. SA bears full responsibility for voting him in.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 10:47
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, APS is in bad shape and only JV can save it according to you lot, but he was on the county board for the last few years, so why wasn't his mere presence enough to turn things around the last few years?
You don’t seem to understand how any of this works.
I understand that, according to the JV-stans he was the only thing keeping Arlington from flushing itself down the toilet, so either he wasn't really doing as much as the hype suggested the last 3 years OR AC and APS will be in smoldering ruins by mid-March.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 10:40
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
Or all the childless millennials along the Orange Line screwed themselves ten years from now.
If they don’t build a fourth high school, my only hope is people with more money than me all send their kids to provate school or move.
Yup, also was/am one. Except we just bought a house and it got me really interested in the SA boundary process. Though we tended to pay more attention than most cause we're political dorks, I completely understand why deF won with the number of 20 something apt dwellers who voted straight dem. I almost don't blame them since at the federal level party dictates most of your voting behavior, but until you get local politics you don't get it.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 10:03
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.
Ok did that. Here's your math lesson.
There are 31 north Arlington precincts, and 23 south Arlington precincts. Setting aside the 20k absentee ballots, which are probably disproportionately from NA, 53% of MdeF's votes came from NA precincts. 46% from SA -- even though percentage wise, as you seem to be pointing out, SA precincts broke most heavily for him. It's he same for vihstadt, though an even larger percentage of his votes came from NA -57/42.
North Arlington elects everyone, it's simply bigger and a larger share of the population is eligible to vote. And that is why SA gets served last.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 09:17
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
I'm so sad about this. People just aren't paying attention enough to understand how all this stuff plays out.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 08:53
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:So, APS is in bad shape and only JV can save it according to you lot, but he was on the county board for the last few years, so why wasn't his mere presence enough to turn things around the last few years?
You don’t seem to understand how any of this works.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 08:09
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:So, APS is in bad shape and only JV can save it according to you lot, but he was on the county board for the last few years, so why wasn't his mere presence enough to turn things around the last few years?
Oh look, it’s another low-information voter here to tell us how things work.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 07:50
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:So, APS is in bad shape and only JV can save it according to you lot, but he was on the county board for the last few years, so why wasn't his mere presence enough to turn things around the last few years?
He chose to look at Arlington holistically. He questioned the status quo and attempted to bring reason to the board. Being outnumbered 4-1 didn't make it easy, but he tried and was willing to work WITH the SB on issues. Now, we'll have no opposition to the more-AH, tank the school Katie Cristol movement.
Anonymous
11/07/2018 07:31
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
So, APS is in bad shape and only JV can save it according to you lot, but he was on the county board for the last few years, so why wasn't his mere presence enough to turn things around the last few years?
Anonymous
11/07/2018 07:15
Subject: Matt DeFerranti v. John Vihstadt
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congrats, mindless voters. You got what you deserved. I'll sit happy here in NA, but I'm sad today b/c one of the few politicians who actually cared about Arlington got drowned out in your stupid blue wave. Trump minions are bad, but so are you.
Yeah, the “NA screws over SA politically” trope is officially dead now.
SA actually screws themselves over
How do? SA voters are outnumbered 2 to 1, at least, by NA. Why do you think they've gotten the short end of the stick for 70 years? It's simple math.-
Go look at the precinct voting returns and then tell me it was NA that just elected MdF.