Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 14:20     Subject: expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant.


The drug dogs can also go through the school at any time and alert on a locker. For random searches like those, the police don’t need anything. Once the dog alerts, they have probable cause for the particular car or locker the dog alerted on. If it’s on school property, there’s no expectation of privacy and the kid has to open up. If a kid refuses, the school can open a locker. The police can also obtain a warrant if they want to be overly cautious, but the kid will not be allowed to alter or move the vehicle or access its contents in the meantime.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 14:20     Subject: expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant. [/quote
There is no expectation of privacy on the school lot and the lot belongs to the school. Same reason the school can search the lockers.


Many schools no longer have lockers, Langley being one of them (before some petulant parent pipes in, yes, a select few students can apply for a locker, but it is far from the norm).

OP, you are best off going to a lawyer. It seems like you have a good case.

Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 14:18     Subject: expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant. [/quote
There is no expectation of privacy on the school lot and the lot belongs to the school. Same reason the school can search the lockers.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 14:12     Subject: expulsion from school
Maybe if he didn’t work so much, he wouldn’t need to do drugs.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 12:20     Subject: expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant.


You don’t understand how police can bring in dogs to search for drugs in school grounds? Can you explain to me how this is different than dogs being used to sniff out drugs in a backpack in a locker?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 12:09     Subject: expulsion from school
Lawyer up with someone good - pronto.

If he's otherwise been a good kid with no problems I would not let this ruin his future.

I know we live in a zero tolerance type atmosphere, but the knife thing is ridiculous and I would make it my #1 priority to get that dropped. A "weapons charge" sounds much worse than marijuana. Heck, even federal agencies with longstanding hiring policies against having EVER used drugs have relaxed their rules because their hiring pool was shrinking due to the prevalence of marijuana use. (I'd still tell him he's banned from it though).

Good luck - sorry you're dealing with this.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 09:52     Subject: expulsion from school
I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 06:14     Subject: Re:expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.


Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?


x10000

How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.


She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.


She says she has a lawyer for the potential criminal charges. She didn't get one for the hearing, it seems because she felt he should suffer the consequences of his actions. She came for advice, so hopefully she's reconsidering getting a lawyer for the hearing. I get her being frustrated and not wanting to somehow enable her son's drug use by mitigating all the consequences. She's gotten advice that, given her assertion that her son is generally a good kid, she should mitigate the school consequences and impose appropriate consequences at home, along with requiring drug treatment. Hopefully she follows that advice.


My friend literally screamed away the problem when the drug sniffing dogs settled on her kid and his friends. Just chewed out the cops and the school administrators. You do NOT let them fry your kid for smoking a little weed or vaping, that’s ridiculous. Fight back OP.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2018 06:13     Subject: Re:expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.


Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?


x10000

How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.


She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.


She says she has a lawyer for the potential criminal charges. She didn't get one for the hearing, it seems because she felt he should suffer the consequences of his actions. She came for advice, so hopefully she's reconsidering getting a lawyer for the hearing. I get her being frustrated and not wanting to somehow enable her son's drug use by mitigating all the consequences. She's gotten advice that, given her assertion that her son is generally a good kid, she should mitigate the school consequences and impose appropriate consequences at home, along with requiring drug treatment. Hopefully she follows that advice.


My friend literally screamed away the problem when the drug sniffing dogs settled on her kid and his friends. Just chewed out the cops and the school administrators. You go NOT let farm fry your kid for smoking a little weed or vaping, that’s ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 19:49     Subject: expulsion from school
Your child is in legal trouble.
You hire a lawyer.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 18:24     Subject: Re:expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He should never have agreed to open his car. What is this??


A pp said in order to get a parking sticker in high school you sign papers beforehand authorizing the search.


Mistake. I’d still refuse.
Giving up your tights for a parking spot?? Have the lawyer get that overturned too.


You don’t have the same rights at a school as you do on the street.


Plus once the dog alerted, police could have gotten a warrant.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 15:50     Subject: Re:expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.


Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?


x10000

How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.


She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.


She says she has a lawyer for the potential criminal charges. She didn't get one for the hearing, it seems because she felt he should suffer the consequences of his actions. She came for advice, so hopefully she's reconsidering getting a lawyer for the hearing. I get her being frustrated and not wanting to somehow enable her son's drug use by mitigating all the consequences. She's gotten advice that, given her assertion that her son is generally a good kid, she should mitigate the school consequences and impose appropriate consequences at home, along with requiring drug treatment. Hopefully she follows that advice.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 14:52     Subject: expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get a good attorney and make it clear that the knife was yours/Dad's and it is a family truck, not his. He screwed up big time. Clearly you were ignoring the drug issues.


Absolutely get a good attorney and do what it takes to make this go away.

Hope OP is rich.


OP teenager has a big enough truck to pull a camper and two homes so there is some money floating around.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 14:51     Subject: Re:expulsion from school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.


Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?


x10000

How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.


She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2018 13:27     Subject: expulsion from school
Please OP, come back to us on Monday and let us know what happened.