Anonymous wrote:WHAT: Rocketship PCS-Legacy Prep (located in Ward 7) has the highest score at 94.6% for the PK-8 framework. This is the highest score of any first-year school. (As a first-year school, Rocketship PCS - Legacy Prep did not receive a Tier.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds parents are going to panic.
They should be used to it - 3rd year they have been mid Tier 2.
The percentage of economically disadvantaged students did grow by 10% last year though.
CMI parent here- not panicking
They went from 59.3 last year to 55.4 this year. The growth measurements are very low.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Okay, I looked a bit more and now see what you are talking about. The fact that the different groups have different growth percentiles doesn't say anything about those groups per se. But it does show how white students, who in DC are almost entirely middle/high income, grow in school performance at a faster rate than the average black student in DC, who, on average, are significantly lower income. This is the achievement gap, playing out over time as the two groups grow further apart. So focusing on schools which are better able to actually show growth among lower income students, is an appropriate focus for the PMF. I do wonder if they do an "in-group" growth percentile analysis? This has to be in education statistics literature somewhere.
It's a very interesting point, thanks for noticing that!
I think it is a worthy goal to close the achievement gap by growing low income, black, special ed, etc. kids faster. The PMF is the basis for a lot of high stakes decisions -- closure, replication, etc. A Tier 2 school that is serving at-risk, low-income black kids in Ward 8 isn't going to be eligible for replication even if they are outperforming other schools in their area and their students are outperforming similar students.
Anonymous wrote:
Okay, I looked a bit more and now see what you are talking about. The fact that the different groups have different growth percentiles doesn't say anything about those groups per se. But it does show how white students, who in DC are almost entirely middle/high income, grow in school performance at a faster rate than the average black student in DC, who, on average, are significantly lower income. This is the achievement gap, playing out over time as the two groups grow further apart. So focusing on schools which are better able to actually show growth among lower income students, is an appropriate focus for the PMF. I do wonder if they do an "in-group" growth percentile analysis? This has to be in education statistics literature somewhere.
It's a very interesting point, thanks for noticing that!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
This is a really good point. At the same time, these two schools' growth numbers this year are lower than they should be, even taking into account the makeup of their student bodies.
Link to their pmfs? I can't access them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
This is a really good point. At the same time, these two schools' growth numbers this year are lower than they should be, even taking into account the makeup of their student bodies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
I don't know the ins and outs of how it works. But the focus on growth, as opposed to final outcomes, is intended to do EXACTLY what you want it to- focus on how an actual school impacts the kids attending, no matter who they are. The idea is to level the assessment playing field so that if you have a bunch of already smart kids getting 80s on the test, you don't score as well as a school which saw a kid go from 40 to 60.
So I while I don't know exactly how the scoring works, I have confidence that the issue you are worried about has been addressed and "baked in" to the PMF. That's exactly why they make growth such a big component of the overall score.
Okay, I looked a bit more and now see what you are talking about. The fact that the different groups have different growth percentiles doesn't say anything about those groups per se. But it does show how white students, who in DC are almost entirely middle/high income, grow in school performance at a faster rate than the average black student in DC, who, on average, are significantly lower income. This is the achievement gap, playing out over time as the two groups grow further apart. So focusing on schools which are better able to actually show growth among lower income students, is an appropriate focus for the PMF. I do wonder if they do an "in-group" growth percentile analysis? This has to be in education statistics literature somewhere.
It's a very interesting point, thanks for noticing that!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
I don't know the ins and outs of how it works. But the focus on growth, as opposed to final outcomes, is intended to do EXACTLY what you want it to- focus on how an actual school impacts the kids attending, no matter who they are. The idea is to level the assessment playing field so that if you have a bunch of already smart kids getting 80s on the test, you don't score as well as a school which saw a kid go from 40 to 60.
So I while I don't know exactly how the scoring works, I have confidence that the issue you are worried about has been addressed and "baked in" to the PMF. That's exactly why they make growth such a big component of the overall score.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8
How fair is the PMF really? Schools like Bridges and Creative Minds with higher populations of special needs and other schools with higher at-risk don't seem to get the same credit on the PMF as schools with lower populations of SPED or at-risk kids. This isn't just sour grapes (ok, maybe a little). But it is what seems apparent to me in looking at OSSE's averages for PARCC growth for different groups.
PARCC Growth Percentiles, Math, Reading
All Students, 50, 50
Econ Disadvantaged, 47, 47
Special Education, 44, 40
Black, 46, 46
White, 65, 63
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Citywide_District%20of%20Columbia.pdf (page 5)
If a school serving SPED kids has average growth for their students, they'd earn 10.5 points on the growth section of the PMF.
A school serving Black kids with average growth for their students, would earn 14 points.
A school serving White kids with average growth would earn 29.7 points.
The PMF calculator is online and you can enter the numbers yourself and see what I mean. https://www.dcpcsb.org/performance-management-framework-pmf/performance-management-framework-pmf-calculators
Anonymous wrote:The aggregate reports aren't out, but I just was clicking around to do some research on another thread, and discovered that the 2018 PMF/Tiering are active on the DCPCSB website. The cut off for Tier One was 65% this year
Some "HRCSs"
Tier One:
Basis Upper 97.3
Basis Middle 70.8
DCB 74.7
ITS 74.6
Latin Middle 72.2
Latin Upper 93.4
Lee Montessori 70.1
LAMB 86.0
Mundo Verde 73.3
SSMA 75.4
TR4 72.0
YY 93.8
Tier Two:
Bridges 42.3
Creative Minds 55.4
Tier Three:
Breakthrough 28.8