Anonymous
09/07/2018 10:28
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH was sued for harassment by a woman he had terminated for poor performance. It was dismissed when he provided numerous memos to HR outlining her performance and her bitterness in dealing with poor evaluations. In addition, many women he worked with over the years submitted letters of support for him as well as saying what a bad apple the woman was. It was an awful thing for my DH to go through and I'm sure it has affected his working relationships with women.
This.
My DH will not take a meeting alone with a woman. He won't even have a woman in his office without another person present. He had one crazy once who claimed harrassment (the woman was eventually terminated) and after that experience wont ever be alone with any female in a work environment.
He should be cautious treating women so differently from men at work.
In my experience, men file more complaints. Women may file more sex harrassment cases, but men are active users of the eeo process to get what they want. The reality is that there is nnothing you can do to avoid a false complaint. But if you're actually discriminating against women to avoid complaints, then it won't be a false complaint.
The difference is that the types of complaints that men are likely to file won't destroy your reputation the way a sexual harassment complaint does.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 10:26
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH was sued for harassment by a woman he had terminated for poor performance. It was dismissed when he provided numerous memos to HR outlining her performance and her bitterness in dealing with poor evaluations. In addition, many women he worked with over the years submitted letters of support for him as well as saying what a bad apple the woman was. It was an awful thing for my DH to go through and I'm sure it has affected his working relationships with women.
This.
My DH will not take a meeting alone with a woman. He won't even have a woman in his office without another person present. He had one crazy once who claimed harrassment (the woman was eventually terminated) and after that experience wont ever be alone with any female in a work environment.
He should be cautious treating women so differently from men at work.
In my experience, men file more complaints. Women may file more sex harrassment cases, but men are active users of the eeo process to get what they want. The reality is that there is nnothing you can do to avoid a false complaint. But if you're actually discriminating against women to avoid complaints, then it won't be a false complaint.
I'm in HR and he's well within his rights to do this. There are actually a lot of men, executives in particular, who take this same precaution.
Your experience is not mine, in terms of what I see at my company of 22k employees. The overwhelming number of EEOC complaints come from women. Especially those with a trail of complaints throughout their employment history.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 10:13
Subject: Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the details of the case, but the employer dismissed it. I’ve always totally trusted my spouse but can’t help but wonder. Is that crazy?
That he was apparently cleared is good news. Also, keep in mind that the modern definition of sexual harassment appears to include offenses such as "making eye contact in conversation," "being in the same general vicinity as the alleged victim," and "breathing in her general direction."
Anonymous
09/07/2018 09:26
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!
No he is just careful. There are so many stories about sexual harassment floating around in corporate America. I know many who just do risk migration- no female mentoring, no drinks after work, always have another woman in the room, etc.
So he chooses to discriminate based on sex rather than conduct himself in a manner beyond reproach? That’s lovely.
Where's your solution?
How about he doesn't sexually harass or discriminate against women.
Why are you so dense? The fact is that many men conduct themselves in a manner beyond reproach, but are still falsely accused of sexual harassment by women who are angry and retaliatory. So some men choose to safeguard themselves. I don't get why you can't understand this?
Anonymous
09/07/2018 09:16
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:
How about no one lies?
See how that works?
How about women stop indulging their boys into a life of entitlement?
Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that men are never at fault because either their mothers raised them to feel entitled, or because women are lying about being harassed? Because that’s how I’m reading this.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 09:09
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!
No he is just careful. There are so many stories about sexual harassment floating around in corporate America. I know many who just do risk migration- no female mentoring, no drinks after work, always have another woman in the room, etc.
So he chooses to discriminate based on sex rather than conduct himself in a manner beyond reproach? That’s lovely.
Where's your solution?
How about he doesn't sexually harass or discriminate against women.
How about no one lies?
See how that works?
How about women stop indulging their boys into a life of entitlement?