Anonymous
08/16/2018 13:01
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
Yes, if you play kick and run like Americans which isn’t Futbol. People without touch or ability to do the things FIFA players do at lightning speed. Which even our pros can’t do.
I love how the argument changes. The best US male athletes go into football, baseball and basketball. The sheer number playing in the later years are not in soccer. Got it. Could buy that.
But—Now when the sheer numbers of Us women playing soccer above all other sports in the later years we change the argument that the minute few of gymnasts in comparison are the majority of best athletes.
You people are crazy.
Your argument would be more credible if the US women weren't currently ranked #1 in the world.
It is only a matter of time before we move down in the ranking. Other countries are getting serious about women's soccer and have caught up. US women won 1 out of the last 4 world cups. Yes, they are doing OK compared to men, but the completion is getting stronger, while the USSF is getting more and more dysfunctional.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:58
Subject: Re:Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
US Soccer needs to have less "Travel" and allow kids to play with their school year. Fees for group practices should be in line with other sports.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:44
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
Yes, if you play kick and run like Americans which isn’t Futbol. People without touch or ability to do the things FIFA players do at lightning speed. Which even our pros can’t do.
I love how the argument changes. The best US male athletes go into football, baseball and basketball. The sheer number playing in the later years are not in soccer. Got it. Could buy that.
But—Now when the sheer numbers of Us women playing soccer above all other sports in the later years we change the argument that the minute few of gymnasts in comparison are the majority of best athletes.
You people are crazy.
Your argument would be more credible if the US women weren't currently ranked #1 in the world.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:26
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
LOL Ok, but I think the simplest sport to pick up with a bit of athleticism would be running in any of its forms.
Then running while using ones hands to manipulate a a ball in some form.
But running while using ones feet simultaneously to manipulate the object of the sport? Ummm, no, not that simple.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:26
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
In that sense, why don't you think basketball is simpler than soccer? After all, you are using your hands instead of feet to play.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:26
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:gymnastics and soccer have very different movements not unlike track (forward).
this thread is pretty dumb. even the premise is not good.
no solutions, because it requires a signifcant change that isn’t realistic or reasonable.
Yes. Usain Bolt is really tearing it up now that he’s switched to soccer. NOT.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:24
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
Yes, if you play kick and run like Americans which isn’t Futbol. People without touch or ability to do the things FIFA players do at lightning speed. Which even our pros can’t do.
I love how the argument changes. The best US male athletes go into football, baseball and basketball. The sheer number playing in the later years are not in soccer. Got it. Could buy that.
But—Now when the sheer numbers of Us women playing soccer above all other sports in the later years we change the argument that the minute few of gymnasts in comparison are the majority of best athletes.
You people are crazy.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:18
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other countries the pro clubs pay the youth clubs when they develop and train a kid that goes pro. In the US that is forbidden.
The systems are fundamentally different. Why would we think we can compete against that? makes no sense. When youth soccer talent is worth good cash money, youth soccer talent will be found and developed. But we dont do that and then is not necessarily a bad thing.
Very true PP. Also, do you know something that a lot of people seem to miss in this conversation? It's a great time to be an American trying to go pro overseas right now, because clubs don't have to make any compensation payments. Christian Pulisic, Tim Weah, Weston McKinnie, and all the other guys who are making names for themselves in pro leagues overseas are significantly more desirable than European counterparts of the same talent level because the clubs can get them for much less while paying the players a good amount. There are a lot of other reasons why the compensation payments (which are never for the benefit of the player, BTW) don't make much sense for clubs here, including the fact that the parents, not the clubs, are paying for most of the kids' development.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:17
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Um...no.
Soccer is one of the simplest sports to pick up for anyone with a bit of athleticism.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:17
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
gymnastics and soccer have very different movements not unlike track (forward).
this thread is pretty dumb. even the premise is not good.
no solutions, because it requires a signifcant change that isn’t realistic or reasonable.
this thread is pretty dumb. even the premise is not good.
no solutions, because it requires a signifcant change that isn’t realistic or reasonable.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:13
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
And that does not mean that they would be good at soccer. Gymnastics is far to specialized to ever bother comparing to any other sport.
That said, gymnastics aside, more travel soccer players could make varsity track, basketball, lacrosse, field hockey, cross country or even swimming than the other way around.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:09
Subject: Re:Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:OMG. It's not time to panic yet? That's it. I'm done.
Urgency was needed years ago to prevent the women going into the garbage heap---but now the rest of the World has caught up and will continue to glide on past.
There are too many dumb people involved in the sport in the US. Dumb in reference to knowledge of the sport, that is.
Name your credentials.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:09
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Says a person who is blinded by his/her hatred travel soccer parents.
Womens gymnasts, ounce for ounce, are hands down the best female athletes anywhere.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:07
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you keep feeding the pay to play system because you fear your kid will miss out, the system will never change.
A $4.5 billion industry that produces mediocre players.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-us-soccer-pay-to-play-u20s-20180814-story,amp.html
There are maybe a few hundred or so kids across this country with world-class soccer potential; the travel soccer population is orders of magnitude higher, and most of those kids have zero shot at getting anywhere close to that level. They aren't D1 players, to say nothing of MLS. Many of the parents are delusional about that. The only real reason to do travel soccer is because your kid loves and is good at soccer. That's the point, not professional development. Please. Your kid is not going pro, unless he is obviously better than everyone else on the field at the highest level you can think of.
As for why U.S. Soccer "fails," it is because the cream of the crop of our athletes play other sports--they are NBA point guards or power forwards, NFL safeties or wide receivers, etc.
Yep.
Hockey players. Swimmers. Track and field athletes..competitive gymnasts and dancers. Skaters. Skiers.
The US excels in so many other sports. It is no big deal if soccer is left for the rest of the world.
That stupid argument fails with women. Admit it. The best women athletes in massive numbers are playing soccer.
No.
The best female athletes are probably in track and field, women's gymnastics and swimming, plus womens NBA.
This is laughable.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 12:01
Subject: Travel soccer parents - you’re the reason US soccer is failing
1. How about this...YOU are the reason US soccer is failing...YOU OP...f'ng YOU!
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