Anonymous
08/16/2018 23:10
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how anyone can think a God, any God, would want them to participate and fund such awfulness. Or would penalize you for finding faith and practice elsewhere.
I think people conflate God with the Catholic church and then just stop thinking
I think there are also people who like the comfort of all the ritual, more than God.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 22:59
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how anyone can think a God, any God, would want them to participate and fund such awfulness. Or would penalize you for finding faith and practice elsewhere.
I think people conflate God with the Catholic church and then just stop thinking
Anonymous
08/16/2018 22:54
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
This conservative Catholic is leaving Catholicism. I'm going to call my parish tomorrow morning and tell them that my family is leaving the church. I will cease all monetary donations to Catholic organizations including their schools. I stand with Jesus not with an institution that accommodates pedophiles. I align myself with Jesus not homosexual and pedophile priests who prey on children. I will not step foot in a Catholic Church again unless it is a museum. A true follower of Christ will never support or make excuses for the evil that resides within the Catholic Church. I wish we could line these monsters up along the aisles of Catholic churches and stone them to death.
Conservative Catholics don't support child abuse! Unfortunately, the priesthood seems to attract mentally unstable men who like to abuse children.
Sounds like it is for the drama and attention and not much substance. This has been known for many years and you still contributed to the church and continues there. Why now? Just because a government body confirmed it?
NP. Don't be so harsh on PP. Lots of posters on here have expressed that this Pittsburgh report was their tipping point.
Everyone has a different tipping point. As children sibs and I had some close relatives who were not Catholic. We recognized that and frankly would have been very happy to go elsewhere. Parents said no. That was in elementary school. That was pre-abuse investigations. Now after the Pope had Bernard Law ensconsed in the Vatican and gave him a fine funeral? Wuerl?
How are these priests different from Jerry Sandusky? Compare those in authority in the Catholic Church to what happened to those in authority at Penn State. Plus people might be scared for additional reasons - use of doctrine etc.
I became aware of the institutional cover-ups decades ago ie https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/02/16/priests-charged-with-abuse/14f5cec1-ee44-48b3-b37e-6d9c1b989755/?utm_term=.67bfa51607fb
Anonymous
08/16/2018 22:39
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
I don't understand how anyone can think a God, any God, would want them to participate and fund such awfulness. Or would penalize you for finding faith and practice elsewhere.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 22:34
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Fuori della Chiesa non c’e la salvezza.
Non si salvera.
Yeah -- you'll only go to heaven if you belong to a church that harbors pedophilia. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 21:43
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Fuori della Chiesa non c’e la salvezza.
Non si salvera.
Non si salvera.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 19:35
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
This conservative Catholic is leaving Catholicism. I'm going to call my parish tomorrow morning and tell them that my family is leaving the church. I will cease all monetary donations to Catholic organizations including their schools. I stand with Jesus not with an institution that accommodates pedophiles. I align myself with Jesus not homosexual and pedophile priests who prey on children. I will not step foot in a Catholic Church again unless it is a museum. A true follower of Christ will never support or make excuses for the evil that resides within the Catholic Church. I wish we could line these monsters up along the aisles of Catholic churches and stone them to death.
Conservative Catholics don't support child abuse! Unfortunately, the priesthood seems to attract mentally unstable men who like to abuse children.
Sounds like it is for the drama and attention and not much substance. This has been known for many years and you still contributed to the church and continues there. Why now? Just because a government body confirmed it?
NP. Don't be so harsh on PP. Lots of posters on here have expressed that this Pittsburgh report was their tipping point.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 19:14
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
This conservative Catholic is leaving Catholicism. I'm going to call my parish tomorrow morning and tell them that my family is leaving the church. I will cease all monetary donations to Catholic organizations including their schools. I stand with Jesus not with an institution that accommodates pedophiles. I align myself with Jesus not homosexual and pedophile priests who prey on children. I will not step foot in a Catholic Church again unless it is a museum. A true follower of Christ will never support or make excuses for the evil that resides within the Catholic Church. I wish we could line these monsters up along the aisles of Catholic churches and stone them to death.
Conservative Catholics don't support child abuse! Unfortunately, the priesthood seems to attract mentally unstable men who like to abuse children.
Sounds like it is for the drama and attention and not much substance. This has been known for many years and you still contributed to the church and continues there. Why now? Just because a government body confirmed it?
Anonymous
08/16/2018 19:12
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
You don't think Conservative Catholics have the moral fortitude to leave the Catholic Church?
A Conservative Catholic has a faith that transcends church hierarchy. A Conservative Catholic understands their obligation to participate in Mass and receive the Eucharistic as the very core of their faith practice. They cannot just up and do that anywhere else.
Apparently, this is a point that conservative Catholics don't agree on
Anonymous
08/16/2018 19:10
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
This conservative Catholic is leaving Catholicism. I'm going to call my parish tomorrow morning and tell them that my family is leaving the church. I will cease all monetary donations to Catholic organizations including their schools. I stand with Jesus not with an institution that accommodates pedophiles. I align myself with Jesus not homosexual and pedophile priests who prey on children. I will not step foot in a Catholic Church again unless it is a museum. A true follower of Christ will never support or make excuses for the evil that resides within the Catholic Church. I wish we could line these monsters up along the aisles of Catholic churches and stone them to death.
Conservative Catholics don't support child abuse! Unfortunately, the priesthood seems to attract mentally unstable men who like to abuse children.
Good for you! Are you switching to another denomination?
Anonymous
08/16/2018 17:27
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
This conservative Catholic is leaving Catholicism. I'm going to call my parish tomorrow morning and tell them that my family is leaving the church. I will cease all monetary donations to Catholic organizations including their schools. I stand with Jesus not with an institution that accommodates pedophiles. I align myself with Jesus not homosexual and pedophile priests who prey on children. I will not step foot in a Catholic Church again unless it is a museum. A true follower of Christ will never support or make excuses for the evil that resides within the Catholic Church. I wish we could line these monsters up along the aisles of Catholic churches and stone them to death.
Conservative Catholics don't support child abuse! Unfortunately, the priesthood seems to attract mentally unstable men who like to abuse children.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 17:21
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
You don't think Conservative Catholics have the moral fortitude to leave the Catholic Church?
A Conservative Catholic has a faith that transcends church hierarchy. A Conservative Catholic understands their obligation to participate in Mass and receive the Eucharistic as the very core of their faith practice. They cannot just up and do that anywhere else.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 16:02
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
You don't think Conservative Catholics have the moral fortitude to leave the Catholic Church?
Anonymous
08/16/2018 15:56
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.
Conservative Catholics wouldn't be considering a change.
Anonymous
08/16/2018 14:20
Subject: Lifelong Catholic, thinking of leaving church -- how to deal with moving children to new faith?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lutheranism is much closer to Catholic than American Episcopalianism. It does not believe in transubstantiation but the liturgy is what you are used to.
The Episcopalian liturgy is virtually word-for-word the Catholic liturgy before the most recent changes.
The liturgy may be the same, but the approach to social issues couldn't be more opposite (pro-life, gay marriage).
I don't see how Conservative Catholics will feel at home in an Episcopal Church.