Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 17:19     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Grinding coffee at 6 am? Yes, inconsiderate. Can’t you grind the night before?
If he can hear it then you are disturbing him.


This.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:36     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nope. It would be inconsiderate to play loud music at 4 a.m. on a Tuesday; that's an unreasonable time for something like that.

But 7 a.m. on a weekday is totally appropriate smoothie time, or food preparation of any sort. It is purposeful, time-appropriate behavior. Be glad it's not 6 a.m.


OP said it was 6am. She was making the noise for 3 minutes at 6am because she leaves at 7.


Not precisely at 6 am. Sometime between 6 and 6:10, DH grinds a tiny amount of beans for his coffee. Sometime between 6:20 and 6:30, I make a smoothie. We leave no later than 7, but often earlier.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:33     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:I think grinding anything near a shared wall at 6am is rough. That might be right where his head is if he's trying to sleep. And no, the whole world doesn't have to get up at 6am because some people do.


I’m OP. The only way he’s sleeping with his head next to our kitchen wall is if he is sleeping in his kitchen. His home is the mirror of ours. The previous neighbors were friendly with us and never mentioned any noise at all. We don’t want to wake anyone up, but we also don’t expect others to be silent at 10 pm when we’re sleeping. With the warm weather, neighbors are outside talking or have windows open with music or tv.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:23     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Nope. It would be inconsiderate to play loud music at 4 a.m. on a Tuesday; that's an unreasonable time for something like that.

But 7 a.m. on a weekday is totally appropriate smoothie time, or food preparation of any sort. It is purposeful, time-appropriate behavior. Be glad it's not 6 a.m.


OP said it was 6am. She was making the noise for 3 minutes at 6am because she leaves at 7.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:23     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
I think grinding anything near a shared wall at 6am is rough. That might be right where his head is if he's trying to sleep. And no, the whole world doesn't have to get up at 6am because some people do.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:14     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you otherwise like this neighbor then I would try and accommodate him. He is trying to tell you nicely that something you do bothers him. If you are able to change it then I would.
One day you might need him to do something for you.

This was a one time thing but a couple of years ago my neighbor started using an electric tree trimmer thing at 1pm right when DD was trying to take a nap. I went out and asked him if he could wait until 3 and he did. Its part of getting along with people.


Ding ding ding!

If OP had to run a life saving machine every morning at 6 am then I'd say the neighbor has to deal. But none of the noise she is making is necessary for that hour - why can't she just change a few things and keep the neighbor happy?




Dp. The coffee is life saving for many of us!
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 15:12     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Community living is not for everyone. I don’t think it’s a reasonable request OP, but you can be nice and try to appease the neighbor if you want. I live in a townhouse and hear a lot of noise- but I signed up for this and I am cool with it.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 14:58     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:On the one hand, it seems a little unreasonable of your neighbor. On the other hand, if there is an easy way for you to accomodate - maybe by moving the coffee grinder to the opposite side of the kitchen - I would try to do so.


If he can hear it through the wall and his bedroom door, I don’t think moving it across the kitchen will help. I will suggest DH grind the night before, but I can’t force him to. He’s more likely to be open to trying the towel padding. I’m not relishing the entire conversation with DH. He’s an engineer by training and likely to undertake a major project to figure out how the neighbor hears it in his bedroom.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 14:53     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you otherwise like this neighbor then I would try and accommodate him. He is trying to tell you nicely that something you do bothers him. If you are able to change it then I would.
One day you might need him to do something for you.

This was a one time thing but a couple of years ago my neighbor started using an electric tree trimmer thing at 1pm right when DD was trying to take a nap. I went out and asked him if he could wait until 3 and he did. Its part of getting along with people.


Ding ding ding!

If OP had to run a life saving machine every morning at 6 am then I'd say the neighbor has to deal. But none of the noise she is making is necessary for that hour - why can't she just change a few things and keep the neighbor happy?

Who are you people that don’t think coffee is necessary in the morning? I would grind the beans the night before because thats easy but the smoothie I don’t know. OP is entitled to use her kitchen at 6 am.


What?!? I drink coffee every morning - it is necessary for me. What I do no do is run a noisy grinder. I open the can and scoop out my coffee. Very easily accomplished with no noise whatsoever.

Now if you're going to claim that there is no way you would ever drink canned coffee and absolutely must grind yours fresh every morning, then of course this becomes all about you and your coffee snobbery. If that's the case, then I'm sure there's no reasoning with you.

Did you even read or just decide there’s “no reasoning with me?” Because I said right there I would grind them the night before. Problem solved.


I'm sorry - I was referring to the universal "you", not you in particular. I know you said you would grind at night, and that's great. I was trying to preemptively address the "only grind in the morning for freshest coffee" crowd that I assumed would parachute in, to try and justify this as normal morning behavior.

My bad.


I’m OP and I didn’t write most of what you’re responding to.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 14:44     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
On the one hand, it seems a little unreasonable of your neighbor. On the other hand, if there is an easy way for you to accomodate - maybe by moving the coffee grinder to the opposite side of the kitchen - I would try to do so.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 14:22     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's unfortunately but your neighbor may not be cut out for apartment or townhouse living. I don't find what you describe to be inconsiderate. That said, you could try to take steps to mitigate the noise but you don' have any obligation to do so and it may not make any difference at all.

+1
I would try to work with him but it’s part of living near other people. I don’t find it inconsiderate at all. My husband grinds beans at 5 am and I never hear it.
I had a Townhouse neighbor complain once that my garage door opening woke her at 1 am (I was getting home from work). Nothing I could do about it unless I wanted to find street parking and walk a ways or quit my job.
I would suggest Trying the things suggested - towel, white noise otherwise it is what it is. That’s why people buy houses.


WTH??!! The garage door bothered her.....she needs to move.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 13:02     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who are you people? Just because you get up by 6am doesn't mean the whole world is. Making Loud noises (e.g. Blenders are about 78-85 dB) before 8 a.m. is rude -- weekday or weekend. If you live in a shared space, you *should* be extra vigilant.


A shared wall is not enough of a shared space that people shouldn’t do ordinary thinks like make a breakfast smoothie or blow dry their hair.


But what OP is doing is NOT normal morning behavior. I love how the onus is on the "victim" and not on the OP to exhibit polite behavior.

I disagree. It’s very normal behavior.
Is she “allowed” to use her hairdryer? After all that’s loud, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 12:56     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:It's unfortunately but your neighbor may not be cut out for apartment or townhouse living. I don't find what you describe to be inconsiderate. That said, you could try to take steps to mitigate the noise but you don' have any obligation to do so and it may not make any difference at all.

+1
I would try to work with him but it’s part of living near other people. I don’t find it inconsiderate at all. My husband grinds beans at 5 am and I never hear it.
I had a Townhouse neighbor complain once that my garage door opening woke her at 1 am (I was getting home from work). Nothing I could do about it unless I wanted to find street parking and walk a ways or quit my job.
I would suggest Trying the things suggested - towel, white noise otherwise it is what it is. That’s why people buy houses.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:54     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Yeah I don't get adjusting noises for sleeping babies. If you didn't tiptoe around them to get them to sleep they would be able to fall asleep no matter what the noise.

I say this as a person who had a neighbor who blasted Michael Jackson for no goddamn reason at random times. I'm just imagining what their reaction would have been if I had wandered over and asked them to alter their life for my babies. Repeatedly.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:48     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you otherwise like this neighbor then I would try and accommodate him. He is trying to tell you nicely that something you do bothers him. If you are able to change it then I would.
One day you might need him to do something for you.

This was a one time thing but a couple of years ago my neighbor started using an electric tree trimmer thing at 1pm right when DD was trying to take a nap. I went out and asked him if he could wait until 3 and he did. Its part of getting along with people.

That was really nice of him but I don’t think your request was reasonable. I would NEVER have asked that. Reasonable to be doing yard work at 1 pm and I would never dream of asking people to adjust their schedule around my sleeping baby. Turn a white noise machine on.


Yes. I don't understand people expect the world to shut down during nap time. Nap times vary and people are entitled to get things done during the day. We've always used white noise machines and outside noise didn't disturb our kids. Even if it did - I wouldn't dream of asking my neighbor to only do x activity during x time frame.