Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:58     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:First, it must be scary to have a child with severe allergies. I am not going to deny how frightening that can be for the child and parents. Unfortunately, it would be irrational to expect the public to accommodate that. Daycares, schools and other institutions where there is a known person (employee, student etc) with an allergy is a different story. A public park can not have those type of limitations.


This. My son has treenut and peanut allergies, and yes, it is scary. I do think that he has to learn to manage his allergies in an unsafe world, and that he has to learn to be thick-skinned about it. If you're shelling peanuts next to him and he gets up and moves away, don't make a snide comment. He's not asking you to stop, but is removing himself from a situation that's potentially dangerous.

I do think, however, that eating in all sorts of public places has gotten out of control. Allergies aside, crumbs, stickiness, and garbage are just gross.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:58     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at all the kids who like peanut butter on here. My kids went to a nut free daycare from 16 weeks until they went to K. Because of this, they never really had opportunities to eat PB and actually, both still hate it now that they're older. Most of their peers are the same.


I feed my kids nuts and nut butters at home. They are really healthy and cheap.


My kid went to a nut-free daycare, but she LOVES peanut butter sandwiches. She also eats nuts as a snack with some frequency. Nuts are full of nutrients and fiber. I wish I liked them more, because they are a great food. If you buy the PB with no added sugar or oil, it's a very healthy food.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:54     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
BTW- does the Peanut Butter Rule also apply to trail mix? Almonds? Cashews?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:52     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
I have very severe allergies to a few things ( not peanut), and so I do not eat or allow my child to eat peanut in public. I know what hell it is to live with serious allergies, so if I can do something to make life a little better for others, I will. Peanut it such a common allergen that triggers a severe reaction in a lot of people. It's really not a big deal for me to only eat it at home.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:48     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
First, it must be scary to have a child with severe allergies. I am not going to deny how frightening that can be for the child and parents. Unfortunately, it would be irrational to expect the public to accommodate that. Daycares, schools and other institutions where there is a known person (employee, student etc) with an allergy is a different story. A public park can not have those type of limitations.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:45     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, I think yours is a valid concern.

But it is difficult for people whose kids do not have food allergies to understand just how severe things can get. So do not be to hard on her. She does not know any better.

My daughter has dairy allergies. A kid had eaten some cheese at the playground one day and used the slide without cleaning up. When my daughter used the slide, her hands and entire back was red and full of hives(she had a shirt on). We teach her to be very observant. That's the best we can do. Other parents just don't get it.


Other people can't just get it because there are too many allergens. I have a friend severely allergic to chocolate. Other people are allergic to peanuts and others to dairy. It's not realistic to count on other people's children to avoid all those different foods and to be perfectly clean when they use the slides.

It's not even realistic to count on other adults to avoid those foods.

If you use a public bus or airplane, same thing - the person who sat in the seat before you did very well might have had cheese crackers in their backpack.


+1

Nuts, peanuts, soy, rice, wheat, oats, dairy products, gelatin, meat, avocados, seeds, shellfish, spices, eggs, strawberries, bananas--hell, pretty much any fresh fruit or vegetable is a potential allergen...I'm willing to bet that people who are up in arms about peanut allergies are not telling their kids they can't have any fruit or vegetables, or any bread or crackers, or any milk or cheese, at the park because some other kid might be allergic. It's just not possible to allergy-proof the world. You can reasonably expect that people will not knowingly serve nuts to your nut-allergic child. You should be able to reasonably expect that parents will make sure that their kids wipe their faces and hands after eating and before returning to the playground, although that doesn't always happen. But you cannot expect no one to ever eat a potential allergen in public.


X1000. Sure, some people are uncaring, but for the most part, people are happy to be accommodating of people's allergies and don't want to cause someone a major medical event, but it is impossible to restrict yourself or your children from eating all potential allergens in public. We know someone whose child died from a food allergy, I am certainly well aware of the horrible risks and stress allergies cause. But the world is not allergy free, and not only can you not expect it to be, you would never want to assume it was anyway...
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:42     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised at all the kids who like peanut butter on here. My kids went to a nut free daycare from 16 weeks until they went to K. Because of this, they never really had opportunities to eat PB and actually, both still hate it now that they're older. Most of their peers are the same.


I feed my kids nuts and nut butters at home. They are really healthy and cheap.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:38     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
I'm surprised at all the kids who like peanut butter on here. My kids went to a nut free daycare from 16 weeks until they went to K. Because of this, they never really had opportunities to eat PB and actually, both still hate it now that they're older. Most of their peers are the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:28     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:Omg, you people are insane.


Totally agree. You're crazy, OP.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:27     Subject: Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now I want a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Thanks, op.


We keep those frozen ones in the freezer for emergency cravings.


After some thought, I made a PB & Banana. It was heaven. OP would unfriend me.


Only if you were at a park


Or breakfast/ before school/ at school/ at the park or at night (since it might still be somewhere on my body the next day.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 10:24     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, I think yours is a valid concern.

But it is difficult for people whose kids do not have food allergies to understand just how severe things can get. So do not be to hard on her. She does not know any better.

My daughter has dairy allergies. A kid had eaten some cheese at the playground one day and used the slide without cleaning up. When my daughter used the slide, her hands and entire back was red and full of hives(she had a shirt on). We teach her to be very observant. That's the best we can do. Other parents just don't get it.


Other people can't just get it because there are too many allergens. I have a friend severely allergic to chocolate. Other people are allergic to peanuts and others to dairy. It's not realistic to count on other people's children to avoid all those different foods and to be perfectly clean when they use the slides.

It's not even realistic to count on other adults to avoid those foods.

If you use a public bus or airplane, same thing - the person who sat in the seat before you did very well might have had cheese crackers in their backpack.


+1

Nuts, peanuts, soy, rice, wheat, oats, dairy products, gelatin, meat, avocados, seeds, shellfish, spices, eggs, strawberries, bananas--hell, pretty much any fresh fruit or vegetable is a potential allergen...I'm willing to bet that people who are up in arms about peanut allergies are not telling their kids they can't have any fruit or vegetables, or any bread or crackers, or any milk or cheese, at the park because some other kid might be allergic. It's just not possible to allergy-proof the world. You can reasonably expect that people will not knowingly serve nuts to your nut-allergic child. You should be able to reasonably expect that parents will make sure that their kids wipe their faces and hands after eating and before returning to the playground, although that doesn't always happen. But you cannot expect no one to ever eat a potential allergen in public.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 08:05     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:Op, I think yours is a valid concern.

But it is difficult for people whose kids do not have food allergies to understand just how severe things can get. So do not be to hard on her. She does not know any better.

My daughter has dairy allergies. A kid had eaten some cheese at the playground one day and used the slide without cleaning up. When my daughter used the slide, her hands and entire back was red and full of hives(she had a shirt on). We teach her to be very observant. That's the best we can do. Other parents just don't get it.


Other people can't just get it because there are too many allergens. I have a friend severely allergic to chocolate. Other people are allergic to peanuts and others to dairy. It's not realistic to count on other people's children to avoid all those different foods and to be perfectly clean when they use the slides.

It's not even realistic to count on other adults to avoid those foods.

If you use a public bus or airplane, same thing - the person who sat in the seat before you did very well might have had cheese crackers in their backpack.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 07:15     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:Op, I think yours is a valid concern.

But it is difficult for people whose kids do not have food allergies to understand just how severe things can get. So do not be to hard on her. She does not know any better.

My daughter has dairy allergies. A kid had eaten some cheese at the playground one day and used the slide without cleaning up. When my daughter used the slide, her hands and entire back was red and full of hives(she had a shirt on). We teach her to be very observant. That's the best we can do. Other parents just don't get it.


I have a severe food allergy, so I understand how serious it can be. However, the idea that the general public should do anything is ridiculous. If I was going to a picnic with a child who had an allergy, of course I wouldn’t bring the allergen. But going to the park with kids who have no known allergies? PB and milk and strawberries and whatever else is fine. Things are getting totally out of hand. If a child is that allergic, the parents need to be the ones to adapt. It is dangerous and ridiculous to expect that of the general public.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 06:59     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Op, I think yours is a valid concern.

But it is difficult for people whose kids do not have food allergies to understand just how severe things can get. So do not be to hard on her. She does not know any better.

My daughter has dairy allergies. A kid had eaten some cheese at the playground one day and used the slide without cleaning up. When my daughter used the slide, her hands and entire back was red and full of hives(she had a shirt on). We teach her to be very observant. That's the best we can do. Other parents just don't get it.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2018 06:38     Subject: Re:Peanut Butter Rules
Anonymous wrote:I feel like not eating peanut butter in public should become thought of as a social norm instead of an accommodation. If this is lethal why take the risk. That’s insane. I feel like it should come with an FDA warning label.


+100000