Anonymous
05/10/2018 18:41
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The trailer solution does not make sense. These schools are not built to accommodate 700+ Kids. My child was at Nottingham before Discover ywas built and they were at 140+% capacity. He had lunch at 10:15am!! (they called it "brunch"). The cafeteria is not meant to sustain these numbers. The school and resources in general are not built for a 700+ student body. If APS plans on Nottingham as an option school, they better plan for major renovations and additions to the school. Which will be very expensive. This doesn't make any sense..
Have you seen how many K-5 students Arlington will have? NW Arlington will have to do your part...McK can't do it for you. Either way Nottingham will have a bunch of trailers.
They're not going to load it up to 140% again as an option school. If you want Nottingham to do its share, it has to stay neighborhood.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 18:36
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:The trailer solution does not make sense. These schools are not built to accommodate 700+ Kids. My child was at Nottingham before Discover ywas built and they were at 140+% capacity. He had lunch at 10:15am!! (they called it "brunch"). The cafeteria is not meant to sustain these numbers. The school and resources in general are not built for a 700+ student body. If APS plans on Nottingham as an option school, they better plan for major renovations and additions to the school. Which will be very expensive. This doesn't make any sense..
Have you seen how many K-5 students Arlington will have? NW Arlington will have to do your part...McK can't do it for you. Either way Nottingham will have a bunch of trailers.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 16:10
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
The trailer solution does not make sense. These schools are not built to accommodate 700+ Kids. My child was at Nottingham before Discover ywas built and they were at 140+% capacity. He had lunch at 10:15am!! (they called it "brunch"). The cafeteria is not meant to sustain these numbers. The school and resources in general are not built for a 700+ student body. If APS plans on Nottingham as an option school, they better plan for major renovations and additions to the school. Which will be very expensive. This doesn't make any sense..
Anonymous
05/10/2018 15:59
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:Let's look at some numbers. Tuckahoe and Nottingham will lose 274-379 students once Reed opens. Where are we going to find these students?
Should be Reed/McK
16061 66
16060 41
16050 42
16130 41
16070 84
____ 274
Could be Reed/McK
16140 14
16110 54
16040 37
____105
Discovery can't really expand East/South. So NW Arlington isn't looking good unless Jamestown becomes the Montessori.
Wow 274-379 open seats between Tuck/Not/Disc. If Jamestown and Taylor get a few planning units from Discovery with the Key/ASFS changes we could have an empty school in NW.
Let's not exaggerate. Jamestown and Taylor aren't going to absorb 300 students from Discovery.
300...that is the exaggeration. Because the actual number is 134. McK could get a few PUs below 66 and Jamestown/Taylor could get some from Discovery. Nottingham's capacity is 513-379=134. Where did you get 300 from?
Tuckahoe would make a good option school because Nottingham can expand as new housing goes up.
None of Nottingham, Tuckahoe and McKinley should be option sites because those are the schools that can take trailers to manage NW overcrowding in the future. Jamestown can take trailers but logistically they can't get neighborhood students there to fill them so it's effectively on the list with Discovery and Reed as unable to take trailers.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 15:34
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Let's look at some numbers. Tuckahoe and Nottingham will lose 274-379 students once Reed opens. Where are we going to find these students?
Should be Reed/McK
16061 66
16060 41
16050 42
16130 41
16070 84
____ 274
Could be Reed/McK
16140 14
16110 54
16040 37
____105
Discovery can't really expand East/South. So NW Arlington isn't looking good unless Jamestown becomes the Montessori.
Wow 274-379 open seats between Tuck/Not/Disc. If Jamestown and Taylor get a few planning units from Discovery with the Key/ASFS changes we could have an empty school in NW.
Let's not exaggerate. Jamestown and Taylor aren't going to absorb 300 students from Discovery.
300...that is the exaggeration. Because the actual number is 134. McK could get a few PUs below 66 and Jamestown/Taylor could get some from Discovery. Nottingham's capacity is 513-379=134. Where did you get 300 from?
Tuckahoe would make a good option school because Nottingham can expand as new housing goes up.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 15:23
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is not rocket science - if any school ends up under-enrolled, allow county-wide transfers.
Guaranteed any under-enrolled neighborhood school in 2021 will be busting at the seems with kids in the neighborhood in the next couple years. do not take away highly walkable neighborhood schools.
Why do you think people would transfer to a normal neighborhood school in large enough numbers to make a difference? Most people want to go to a school near where they live, so without a programmatic incentive and free transportation people are not going to transfer into a school in NW Arlington.
I think if they were to do this, they'd have to try make the under-capacity school one close to a major commuting route where people would feel like they could drive their kids back and forth without having to go wildly out of their way. That will be the problem filling Williamsburg via countywide transfer, it's too inconvenient. Stratford, Kenmore or Jefferson would have been much better in that regard, but too many people didn't want to be the ones to switch to Williamsburg for that to happen.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 15:13
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:This is not rocket science - if any school ends up under-enrolled, allow county-wide transfers.
Guaranteed any under-enrolled neighborhood school in 2021 will be busting at the seems with kids in the neighborhood in the next couple years. do not take away highly walkable neighborhood schools.
Why do you think people would transfer to a normal neighborhood school in large enough numbers to make a difference? Most people want to go to a school near where they live, so without a programmatic incentive and free transportation people are not going to transfer into a school in NW Arlington.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 15:06
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
This is not rocket science - if any school ends up under-enrolled, allow county-wide transfers.
Guaranteed any under-enrolled neighborhood school in 2021 will be busting at the seems with kids in the neighborhood in the next couple years. do not take away highly walkable neighborhood schools.
Guaranteed any under-enrolled neighborhood school in 2021 will be busting at the seems with kids in the neighborhood in the next couple years. do not take away highly walkable neighborhood schools.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:22
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
You all are spending a an awful lot of time in a thread about the future on Nottingham for people who claim not to care either way. But if you have nothing better to do with your time, you do you.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:20
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are harping this as "exploitation" to derail the conversation so they don't have to address the substantive reasons listed by 10:46.
NP. I don’t care what happens to Nottingham either way and I agree that using her death to make a point is disgusting and insensitive.
+1
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:19
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:People are harping this as "exploitation" to derail the conversation so they don't have to address the substantive reasons listed by 10:46.
NP. I don’t care what happens to Nottingham either way and I agree that using her death to make a point is disgusting and insensitive.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:16
Subject: Re:Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
People are harping this as "exploitation" to derail the conversation so they don't have to address the substantive reasons listed by 10:46.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:14
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe anyone would make this argument using someone’s death. This must be someone who wasn’t a parent during this tragedy.
Anyone with a child currently in elementary school was a parent when she died. Do you know anything at all about what happened?
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:11
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
I can’t believe anyone would make this argument using someone’s death. This must be someone who wasn’t a parent during this tragedy.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 12:04
Subject: Is Nottingham going to be the new option school in Arlington or its still being decided?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to Jennifer L was awful & tragic. But Nottingham is not more inherently dangerous than other schools. Kids cross 26th and Sycamore everyday. I see them on my commute. Kids cross Carlin Springs. And Glebe. So argue for more safety precautions. But don’t exploit a tragedy in the interest of your convenience. That’s not ok.
Bingo.
News Flash - she wasn't crossing the street and it wasn't at the start or end of the school day.
I find this entire thread sad and disturbing at this point. Please don’t exploit someone’s death to make an argument one way or the other.
Her death isn't being exploited. We are not using it to drum up sympathy for some issue unrelated to her death, no one is saying, "Remember Jennifer Bush-Lawson, she would want Nottingham to stay a neighborhood school!" We are saying that her death highlights how dangerous that road is and why it needs to be fixed. It needs to be fixed regardless of Nottingham's status as an option or neighborhood school, but it especially needs to be fixed before APS changes Nottingham's status in a way that makes it even more dangerous. We are saying this isn't a trivial concern of ours, we're not making it up that the road in front of Nottingham is dangerous, the circumstances around her death prove how dangerous that stretch of road is. That is in no way exploitation, don't project your own motivations and strategies on us.