Anonymous
05/12/2018 20:38
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying gifted kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
Those on free/reduced lunch get testing done for free at GMU....
There are people who are not poor enough to be on free/reduced lunch who still don't have $900+ to spare (testing twice). Maybe they had $450 to spare on educational testing but not $900 (do it again).
Anonymous
05/12/2018 18:08
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying gifted kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
Those on free/reduced lunch get testing done for free at GMU....
My guess is very few, if at all, take advantage of that testing. Those typically aren’t the kids that succeed in the classroom.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 16:27
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying gifted kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
Those on free/reduced lunch get testing done for free at GMU....
Anonymous
05/12/2018 16:25
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
Considering the NNAT and CoGAT aren’t actually IQ tests, I disagree. They certainly do not test for giftedness. Anyone can prep them and do fairly well. They need GBRS to see how kids ar emperor in gin the classroom on a daily basis. A one time test means nothing,
I would agree but I think there is just too much variability in the GBRS. It is too subjective...
Anonymous
05/12/2018 16:24
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
There are only a few. Post the wisc subscores and other metrics, gbrs and CogAT. Otherwise mostly trolls, like the 140 fsiq and 16 gbrs who are worried?
Post the data, please!
I've seen more than "a few."
Anonymous
05/12/2018 15:12
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
Considering the NNAT and CoGAT aren’t actually IQ tests, I disagree. They certainly do not test for giftedness. Anyone can prep them and do fairly well. They need GBRS to see how kids ar emperor in gin the classroom on a daily basis. A one time test means nothing,
Oops...meant to write “they need GBRS” to understand how a child looks in a classroom setting on a daily basis.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 15:11
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
Considering the NNAT and CoGAT aren’t actually IQ tests, I disagree. They certainly do not test for giftedness. Anyone can prep them and do fairly well. They need GBRS to see how kids ar emperor in gin the classroom on a daily basis. A one time test means nothing,
Anonymous
05/12/2018 14:34
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
There are only a few. Post the wisc subscores and other metrics, gbrs and CogAT. Otherwise mostly trolls, like the 140 fsiq and 16 gbrs who are worried?
Post the data, please!
Anonymous
05/12/2018 14:22
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
If any one has 132+ on NNAT and COGAT, or 130+ on WISC, the kids should be admitted automatically. GBRS should be viewed only for other kids.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 10:21
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying fited kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
So an UMC child who is deemed gifted by a test is passed over in case there might be another child who didn't take the test who would have scored well? How is that fair to the other child?
I don't understand what you're asking or the point you're making.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 09:53
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying fited kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
So an UMC child who is deemed gifted by a test is passed over in case there might be another child who didn't take the test who would have scored well? How is that fair to the other child?
Anonymous
05/12/2018 09:35
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying gifted kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 09:34
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
But many parents DON'T have discretionary funds for WISC testing and another test and that is the issue. It seems FCPS AAP is actually denying fited kids, UMC, white or otherwise and only the richest who can afford to do testing twice will benefit. THAT is a story. I'm sure there are racially or economically under represented (clearly not poor but maybe scrapped what they could for GMU testing) people who were denied with WISC of 130+ who said, well we can't afford testing again so we can't appeal and their gifted child (because a WISC over 130 is gifted) is left out in the cold. This is most certainly a story.
Anonymous
05/12/2018 08:28
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".
+1
When I first saw that other post mention contacting a reporter I thought well...WaPo may cover this story but probably not in the way you want!
Anonymous
05/12/2018 08:13
Subject: Any chances getting in GT program with the following scores.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i think that we need to form a group and write a letter to the AAP appeals office that WISCs of 130+ (maybe 128+) should override all other low scores/GBRS and the kids should be accepted to AAP. How about going to the FCPS main office in one big group to voice the concern?
Some poster on here a few weeks back mentioned going to WaPo. That seems like a better idea.
While I agree how the admission criteria is applied is out of whack, WaPo will not have any sympathy for UMC parents who have the discretionary funds to pay for WISC V testing. They will frame it as a white "first world problem".