Anonymous wrote:It seems like UChicago has an identity crisis - or its supporters do? It wants to be considered at the level of an Ivy but does not have that reputation. Stanford and Duke and a few other schools seems to have the same "prestige" as an Ivy and no identity crisis - but Chicago struggles. Why?

UChicago’s identity crisis is reflection of the US’s ambivalence about what makes an elite university elite — is it that it attracts/produces the smartest people or the richest people? Ivies (and some of the older LACs), historically and to somewhat varying degrees, were in the social elite camp. UChicago (and places like JHU and MIT) have, historically, been in the intellectual elite camp. UChicago is facing a moment (as Stanford did in the 1980s, for somewhat different but also somewhat related reasons) where it’s better able to compete for the social elite. Stanford never defined itself against that model, but UChicago did. Hence the identity crisis. UChicago will get over it, but how and where the balance gets struck is currently up for grabs and some people (on opposite sides) feel very strongly that these are high-stakes decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Would Duke and Chicago be considered equal caliber schools in most people's opinion?

No.

which is better?

Anonymous wrote:Would Duke and Chicago be considered equal caliber schools in most people's opinion?

No.

Would Duke and Chicago be considered equal caliber schools in most people's opinion?

It seems like UChicago has an identity crisis - or its supporters do? It wants to be considered at the level of an Ivy but does not have that reputation. Stanford and Duke and a few other schools seems to have the same "prestige" as an Ivy and no identity crisis - but Chicago struggles. Why?

Anonymous wrote:STA always sends 5-6 boys

More like 8 in recent years.

I know someone who didn’t complete the Chicago app (started it online but never filed) and was accepted with aid. This was five years ago.

Anyway, nice to see our old friends UChicago Hater, Crazy CalTech Booster, and Inarticulate Right Wing-Nut.

The PP who said all these schools have similar student bodies and impressive profs (with the difference that some departments will be stronger than others) is right. Including UChicago.

Signed, my kid went to a USNWR top 5 and I know plenty of kids at the other top schools

No, actually. The UChicago uncommon app pulls out of applicants the critical thinking traits the school is looking for. It's very different than the generic questions asked by most schools.

My daughter's boyfriend got rejected from Cornell but accepted by Chicago. He claims he only worked hard on the Chicago app, but doesn't everyone say that?

STA always sends 5-6 boys

How many are going to Chicago from area schools?

Because UChicago isn't that good

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not kid ourselves, undergrad "prestige" is all about how quick your kid can make serious money on Wall Street, MBB consulting, in SV, or via t14 law school or top medical school.

US News list is a running joke. Most Chicago, Northwestern, WashU and Emory alums I know work regular ass jobs.

Then you are a moron. Don't talk about things you clearly know nothing about. And repeat after me. "Personal anecdotes, don't equal evidence". If you see the number of Wall street, Top Tier consulting firms, Prop Trading firms and hitech firms that now recruit UChicago kids, your envy will devour you even more. The school's career services has really transformed the opportunities available to these kids now. Now are these the right jobs for everybody? Hell no. But make no mistake about it. These "prestige" firms are recruiting heavily at Chicago now.

I don't know enough about the other schools to comment.

do you think that 'anecdote isn't evidence' cliche makes you sound bright? so cringe. you've likely never had an unoriginal thought. just keep parroting windy bullshit.

I don't have to think you imbecile. I know. You on the other hand don't know the difference because your IQ is less than 80. Probably why Chicago rejected ou. Your lack of intellectual gravitas must have come across in your essays. Run along now