Anonymous
03/16/2018 21:15
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous
03/16/2018 13:05
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you can game it. PTA president's children always get into the advanced classes. etc. Teachers pet gets moved up. The distracted genius does not. Testing is actually less subjective.
So true.
If it’s true, feel free to the job. We are always begging for a Pres.
So you think its ok for PTA president to het into the AAP? Isispectrd the same in my DC school.
No, I don’t think it’s true.
Find me a PTA President who's kid is NOT in AAP.
I know one. It might happen at some schools, but definitely not all. I think it's more likely the PTA president's kid might get better teacher placement in either gen ed or AAP.
Our PTA co-presidents do not have kids in the center part of the school. In fact, the whole PTA is pretty much non-AAP. They were surprised that I had a kid in AAP and I was attending and helping at PTA sponsored events. They said AAP parents never help. My child is an AAP transfer (not part of the base school).
Anonymous
03/16/2018 12:54
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.
Wha abuts the ESOL and/or FARMS students that were also found eligible?
Very few were found eligible. I don't see why this is so surprising. Most of the AAP kids seem to be white or Asian and at least average socioeconomic status.
Not at my DC's center. There seems to be a fair number of kids in AAP who are from families with parents who are recent African immigrants.
All first gen white collar immigrants behave the same way.. They want good education for their kids and push them into AAP. They believe that their kids will manage and thrive in AAP regardless of whether or not they "qualify". This includes Africans. However, these kids have a HUGE advantage when it comes to college. They will check the African American box, have great grades and get into any top school of their choosing. Good for thhem.
PP again.. Typical ESOL/FARMS kids are Latino or those that came in on refugee status.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 12:53
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.
Wha abuts the ESOL and/or FARMS students that were also found eligible?
Very few were found eligible. I don't see why this is so surprising. Most of the AAP kids seem to be white or Asian and at least average socioeconomic status.
Not at my DC's center. There seems to be a fair number of kids in AAP who are from families with parents who are recent African immigrants.
All first gen white collar immigrants behave the same way.. They want good education for their kids and push them into AAP. They believe that their kids will manage and thrive in AAP regardless of whether or not they "qualify". This includes Africans. However, these kids have a HUGE advantage when it comes to college. They will check the African American box, have great grades and get into any top school of their choosing. Good for thhem.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 11:49
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you can game it. PTA president's children always get into the advanced classes. etc. Teachers pet gets moved up. The distracted genius does not. Testing is actually less subjective.
So true.
If it’s true, feel free to the job. We are always begging for a Pres.
So you think its ok for PTA president to het into the AAP? Isispectrd the same in my DC school.
No, I don’t think it’s true.
Find me a PTA President who's kid is NOT in AAP.
I know one. It might happen at some schools, but definitely not all. I think it's more likely the PTA president's kid might get better teacher placement in either gen ed or AAP.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 11:38
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About 20% at our high FARMS, Title I school. This means about 40% of the non ESOL, non FARMS kids are found eligible for AAP.
Wha abuts the ESOL and/or FARMS students that were also found eligible?
Very few were found eligible. I don't see why this is so surprising. Most of the AAP kids seem to be white or Asian and at least average socioeconomic status.
Not at my DC's center. There seems to be a fair number of kids in AAP who are from families with parents who are recent African immigrants.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 11:15
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.
This.
This what?
Anonymous
03/16/2018 06:59
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
If you look on Dashboard, you can figure it out. Look at the number of kids in 3rd grade this year, to the number in second last year.
At DD's old school (she is in HS), it went from 67 last year to 37 in gen ed. That suggests 30 kids went into AAP, or 44%. Other years, it is much lower.
At DD's old school (she is in HS), it went from 67 last year to 37 in gen ed. That suggests 30 kids went into AAP, or 44%. Other years, it is much lower.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 06:45
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Our base school is an AAP Center. As I wait for my child’s results, out of curiosity, I looked in the school directories to see how many 2016-17 2nd graders went on to AAP this year in 3rd and it was 32% of the grade. This really surprises me. I feel like it hurts the truly gifted that are leaps and bounds above their peers and it hurts the gen ed classes because it seems like you are basically taking out all of the high academically motivated children. No wonder why so many parents push so hard for AAP when over 32% of the grade gets into it. I understand it is not a “gifted program” but geez- 32% of a second grade class was determined to need an advanced program? Interesting.
The numbers have fallen. Interesting.
Look, it’s not a “gifted” program. It is an accelerated program to accommodate high-achievers and motivated students. There’s a difference. In the old days we called this tracking.
Anonymous
03/16/2018 02:57
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:FCPS's general ed program now caters to special ed and ESOL students. Unfortunately "gifted" is regular ed in many other districts.
This.
Anonymous
03/15/2018 22:57
Subject: 32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
OP doesn’t have to name her Center. If you have 32% of your center going into AAP, then you live inbounds for one of the 8-10 really good ES AAP feeders for Carson, RRMS or Longfellow. People moved into your neighborhood to get their kid into one of the Center schools (so they would not have to change after 2nd grade) that would give them the best shot possible at TJ.
Greenbrier West and Colvin Run and McNair and Oak Hill don’t accurately represent FCPS any more than the Title I schools at risk for not being fully accredited. These schools are outliers that attract parents with certain goals and values.
Greenbrier West and Colvin Run and McNair and Oak Hill don’t accurately represent FCPS any more than the Title I schools at risk for not being fully accredited. These schools are outliers that attract parents with certain goals and values.
Anonymous
03/15/2018 21:56
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Our PTA president's child is in AAP too and I agree that their kids are somewhat in advantage. But how can their scores be all high or in pool based on both tests. Are we saying then that perfectly glowing GBRS 16 can put them over the top regardless of test scores?
Either that or principal placement.
Anonymous
03/15/2018 21:43
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you can game it. PTA president's children always get into the advanced classes. etc. Teachers pet gets moved up. The distracted genius does not. Testing is actually less subjective.
So true.
If it’s true, feel free to the job. We are always begging for a Pres.
So you think its ok for PTA president to het into the AAP? Isispectrd the same in my DC school.
No, I don’t think it’s true.
Find me a PTA President who's kid is NOT in AAP.
Sure - my local ES but I am not saying names
No one believes you.
Ok, that’s fine. It’s no skin off my back if you don’t want to believe the truth. I’ll file this along with the time some folks on DCUM acted like I was lying for saying my kindergartener was in Boy Scouts because apparently they did not have the Lions pilot program in their area. At that time I also didn’t need to waste any energy convincing them I was right..
https://www.scouting.org/lion/
Anonymous
03/15/2018 21:31
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Our PTA president's child is in AAP too and I agree that their kids are somewhat in advantage. But how can their scores be all high or in pool based on both tests. Are we saying then that perfectly glowing GBRS 16 can put them over the top regardless of test scores?
Anonymous
03/15/2018 21:31
Subject: Re:32% of 2nd grade went AAP in 3rd
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course you can game it. PTA president's children always get into the advanced classes. etc. Teachers pet gets moved up. The distracted genius does not. Testing is actually less subjective.
So true.
If it’s true, feel free to the job. We are always begging for a Pres.
So you think its ok for PTA president to het into the AAP? Isispectrd the same in my DC school.
No, I don’t think it’s true.
Find me a PTA President who's kid is NOT in AAP.
Sure - my local ES but I am not saying names
No one believes you.