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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.

I presume to know more than the AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior because I was labeled profoundly gifted as a child and I know it doesn't mean what many think it means. My child's GBRS 2 yeas ago was an 8. Her WISC was a 149. So yes, I think the AART was an idiot, along with the teachers. The committee also didn't put much stock in it. She was admitted. AAP turned out not to be advanced enough for her so she's now homeschooled and we're working on 8th grade cirriculum. She's 9. Had we left it up to the AART and the committee she'd be sitting in 4th grade Gen Ed.

I don't know how old you are, but isn't the area of education constantly evolving? I was in a gifted program as a child, although I don't think anyone pronounced me "profoundly gifted" (I'm not sure I was given an IQ test.) Just speaking for myself, but I know I'm not qualified to assess my child's giftedness despite my having once been identified as being so back in 1982. It sounds like your experience with the AART at your child's school has not been a good one. That's a shame. I'm glad you were able to overcome that. Our experience is much different, though. I think the AART at my child's school is very astute. She has made many observations that I haven't. I also have not had the benefit of comparing my child to others because I'm not in the classroom.

I'm 34. Yes the area is constantly evolving but they did give IQ tests back in 1992. I also graduated HS at 15 and college at 17. I also hold numerous degrees, but you're right, maybe I'm not gifted. Nor is my daughter despite her 149 FSIQ. I'm not in a positon to assess her as such. I guess the person who gave her her IQ test 2 years ago and the state of VA who approved of her passing 7th grade cirriculum when she was 8 are all way off base too. I should go back to the AART at our base school and enroll her in 4th grader gen ed right away.

I'm not sure why you're twisting yourself in knots to defend an AART who clearly got it wrong here. AARTs are not all knowing. Do they always get it right, no. But for to push back on me saying I knew how to assess giftedness over the AART, especially when I have objective measures showing I was correct, is mind blowing to me.

Anonymous wrote:I asked my teacher and AART last week and neither is willing to tell me GRBS or anything about our file.

They only say our file looks good but doesn’t want to say anything more than that.

Is it because our gbrs score is low or something wrong with our file?

Can’t wait until April and hate thinking about appeals then

Anonymous wrote:I asked my teacher and AART last week and neither is willing to tell me GRBS or anything about our file.

They only say our file looks good but doesn’t want to say anything more than that.

Is it because our gbrs score is low or something wrong with our file?

Can’t wait until April and hate thinking about appeals then

Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.

I presume to know more than the AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior because I was labeled profoundly gifted as a child and I know it doesn't mean what many think it means. My child's GBRS 2 yeas ago was an 8. Her WISC was a 149. So yes, I think the AART was an idiot, along with the teachers. The committee also didn't put much stock in it. She was admitted. AAP turned out not to be advanced enough for her so she's now homeschooled and we're working on 8th grade cirriculum. She's 9. Had we left it up to the AART and the committee she'd be sitting in 4th grade Gen Ed.

I don't know how old you are, but isn't the area of education constantly evolving? I was in a gifted program as a child, although I don't think anyone pronounced me "profoundly gifted" (I'm not sure I was given an IQ test.) Just speaking for myself, but I know I'm not qualified to assess my child's giftedness despite my having once been identified as being so back in 1982. It sounds like your experience with the AART at your child's school has not been a good one. That's a shame. I'm glad you were able to overcome that. Our experience is much different, though. I think the AART at my child's school is very astute. She has made many observations that I haven't. I also have not had the benefit of comparing my child to others because I'm not in the classroom.

I'm 34. Yes the area is constantly evolving but they did give IQ tests back in 1992. I also graduated HS at 15 and college at 17. I also hold numerous degrees, but you're right, maybe I'm not gifted. Nor is my daughter despite her 149 FSIQ. I'm not in a positon to assess her as such. I guess the person who gave her her IQ test 2 years ago and the state of VA who approved of her passing 7th grade cirriculum when she was 8 are all way off base too. I should go back to the AART at our base school and enroll her in 4th grader gen ed right away.

I'm not sure why you're twisting yourself in knots to defend an AART who clearly got it wrong here. AARTs are not all knowing. Do they always get it right, no. But for to push back on me saying I knew how to assess giftedness over the AART, especially when I have objective measures showing I was correct, is mind blowing to me.

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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.

I presume to know more than the AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior because I was labeled profoundly gifted as a child and I know it doesn't mean what many think it means. My child's GBRS 2 yeas ago was an 8. Her WISC was a 149. So yes, I think the AART was an idiot, along with the teachers. The committee also didn't put much stock in it. She was admitted. AAP turned out not to be advanced enough for her so she's now homeschooled and we're working on 8th grade cirriculum. She's 9. Had we left it up to the AART and the committee she'd be sitting in 4th grade Gen Ed.

I don't know how old you are, but isn't the area of education constantly evolving? I was in a gifted program as a child, although I don't think anyone pronounced me "profoundly gifted" (I'm not sure I was given an IQ test.) Just speaking for myself, but I know I'm not qualified to assess my child's giftedness despite my having once been identified as being so back in 1982. It sounds like your experience with the AART at your child's school has not been a good one. That's a shame. I'm glad you were able to overcome that. Our experience is much different, though. I think the AART at my child's school is very astute. She has made many observations that I haven't. I also have not had the benefit of comparing my child to others because I'm not in the classroom.

I'm 34. Yes the area is constantly evolving but they did give IQ tests back in 1992. I also graduated HS at 15 and college at 17. I also hold numerous degrees, but you're right, maybe I'm not gifted. Nor is my daughter despite her 149 FSIQ. I'm not in a positon to assess her as such. I guess the person who gave her her IQ test 2 years ago and the state of VA who approved of her passing 7th grade cirriculum when she was 8 are all way off base too. I should go back to the AART at our base school and enroll her in 4th grader gen ed right away.

I'm not sure why you're twisting yourself in knots to defend an AART who clearly got it wrong here. AARTs are not all knowing. Do they always get it right, no. But for to push back on me saying I knew how to assess giftedness over the AART, especially when I have objective measures showing I was correct, is mind blowing to me.

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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.

I presume to know more than the AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior because I was labeled profoundly gifted as a child and I know it doesn't mean what many think it means. My child's GBRS 2 yeas ago was an 8. Her WISC was a 149. So yes, I think the AART was an idiot, along with the teachers. The committee also didn't put much stock in it. She was admitted. AAP turned out not to be advanced enough for her so she's now homeschooled and we're working on 8th grade cirriculum. She's 9. Had we left it up to the AART and the committee she'd be sitting in 4th grade Gen Ed.

I don't know how old you are, but isn't the area of education constantly evolving? I was in a gifted program as a child, although I don't think anyone pronounced me "profoundly gifted" (I'm not sure I was given an IQ test.) Just speaking for myself, but I know I'm not qualified to assess my child's giftedness despite my having once been identified as being so back in 1982. It sounds like your experience with the AART at your child's school has not been a good one. That's a shame. I'm glad you were able to overcome that. Our experience is much different, though. I think the AART at my child's school is very astute. She has made many observations that I haven't. I also have not had the benefit of comparing my child to others because I'm not in the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.

I presume to know more than the AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior because I was labeled profoundly gifted as a child and I know it doesn't mean what many think it means. My child's GBRS 2 yeas ago was an 8. Her WISC was a 149. So yes, I think the AART was an idiot, along with the teachers. The committee also didn't put much stock in it. She was admitted. AAP turned out not to be advanced enough for her so she's now homeschooled and we're working on 8th grade cirriculum. She's 9. Had we left it up to the AART and the committee she'd be sitting in 4th grade Gen Ed.

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Anonymous wrote:^ you are choosing to trust one professional over another.

It turns out your kid was 2E, and whatever intervention you're doing is helping. So you are trusting the doctors, but did they prescribe meds? Not passing judgement, but if your kid is now on medication, that helps the kid focus, and that would help any kid focus, and give their best.

Child was diagnosed last year with a full psychoeducational eval and in working with the pediatrician as well. Not medicated, and no current plans to do so, per discussions with pediatrician.

I am not saying that there is anything wrong with 2E, or with any needed/beneficial interventions, and I certainly didn't want to come across that way. I was not saying that you were not right to trust your instinct, but I was only trying to point out that docs can be wrong too, even if there is a panel of them.

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Anonymous wrote:^ you are choosing to trust one professional over another.

It turns out your kid was 2E, and whatever intervention you're doing is helping. So you are trusting the doctors, but did they prescribe meds? Not passing judgement, but if your kid is now on medication, that helps the kid focus, and that would help any kid focus, and give their best.

Child was diagnosed last year with a full psychoeducational eval and in working with the pediatrician as well. Not medicated, and no current plans to do so, per discussions with pediatrician.

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Anonymous wrote:You're assuming that the classroom teacher, AART, etc. know how to identify gifted baheviors. That is not always the case. They're not necessarily behaviors many lay people assume they are but one would hope educators would know that and know how to spot them.

So you think an AART has no training in spotting gifted behaviors?? Come on. They’re not just plucked off the street and left to figure out how to do their job.

Exactly. Sure, I think my kid is smart. But I don't presume to know more than my kid's AART when it comes to spotting gifted behavior. And this is because: (1) I have no degrees, training, or hands on experience in elementary education (other than having once been a child myself); and (2) I lack the ability to be objective when it comes to my own kid.