Anonymous wrote:Is it superior? Maybe. But on what metric? And honestly, what difference in outcomes will it make? My guess is if there is even any difference that isn't just some correlational link the magnitude would be so teeny tiny as not to warrant jumping through all the hoops to import formula.

Ordering from a European website with US distributors is the same as ordering from a US website. I don't get the "hoops"...

Is it superior? Maybe. But on what metric? And honestly, what difference in outcomes will it make? My guess is if there is even any difference that isn't just some correlational link the magnitude would be so teeny tiny as not to warrant jumping through all the hoops to import formula.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

Obviously there's no way to know, but going through established domestic brands, stores, and supply chains, and places I shop every day without incident, gives me a LOT more confidence than ordering random one-off packages of infant formula online to be shipped from overseas. Buying foreign baby formula online obviously gives more opportunity for poor storage and counterfitting than buying Enfamil at Safeway.

I feel the exact opposite. I have much greater faith in buying a British formula directly from their factory than trusting that my store bought Emfamil was not made in China (since nothing insists they label where it was manufactured).

When you see a label that lists that US formula is made in the US, you prefer to disbelieve it. That's not rational.

We have no laws that state the various components of any product be made in the US. Same with all food and drugs. Some European countries do.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

Obviously there's no way to know, but going through established domestic brands, stores, and supply chains, and places I shop every day without incident, gives me a LOT more confidence than ordering random one-off packages of infant formula online to be shipped from overseas. Buying foreign baby formula online obviously gives more opportunity for poor storage and counterfitting than buying Enfamil at Safeway.

I feel the exact opposite. I have much greater faith in buying a British formula directly from their factory than trusting that my store bought Emfamil was not made in China (since nothing insists they label where it was manufactured).

When you see a label that lists that US formula is made in the US, you prefer to disbelieve it. That's not rational.

Well given that obviously I can’t trust anything in the food chain, I’m going pioneer. Off to buy a goat and some other stuff to make my own!

Good grief - some of you really need some perspective. You realize these arguments apply to basically every food your kid will eat.

What pesticides are on the fruits and veggies? Are they really organic? What if pesticides blow on them?
What about the packaged food? Where is it made? Stored? Etc.?

US formula is like the most highly regulated product out there. It is good.

Additionally, I’m actually curious how these on line stores can legally offer foreign formula unapproved for sale in the US? Any FDA lawyers out there?

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

Obviously there's no way to know, but going through established domestic brands, stores, and supply chains, and places I shop every day without incident, gives me a LOT more confidence than ordering random one-off packages of infant formula online to be shipped from overseas. Buying foreign baby formula online obviously gives more opportunity for poor storage and counterfitting than buying Enfamil at Safeway.

I feel the exact opposite. I have much greater faith in buying a British formula directly from their factory than trusting that my store bought Emfamil was not made in China (since nothing insists they label where it was manufactured).

I almost bought into the nonsense but then I told myself to get a grip and just bought Similac....after buying my first 2 tubs...am wondering if I could get baby to take the generic!

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

DP. If a product is on the shelf, it probably has not been recalled. If it has, the store will put up signs, etc. It's probably not counterfeit, and they have country of origin on the label.

For example: https://www.riteaid.com/shop/similac-advance-infant-formula-milk-based-powder-with-iron-complete-nutrition-stage-1-birth-12-months-1-45-lb-658-g-0338975

Anonymous wrote:I think that European brands like HIPP and Holle are superior - but do your own research, OP. No mother is going to tell you that the formula she fed her baby was inferior -- that is not the way the minds of mothers work.

No, why don't you go ahead and tell us why US brands are inferior? I know you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

Obviously there's no way to know, but going through established domestic brands, stores, and supply chains, and places I shop every day without incident, gives me a LOT more confidence than ordering random one-off packages of infant formula online to be shipped from overseas. Buying foreign baby formula online obviously gives more opportunity for poor storage and counterfitting than buying Enfamil at Safeway.

I think that European brands like HIPP and Holle are superior - but do your own research, OP. No mother is going to tell you that the formula she fed her baby was inferior -- that is not the way the minds of mothers work.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.

How do you know? I am serious - how do you know your formula and/or formula's ingredients weren't processed in China or India? How do you know how it was stored?

I'm from London and HiPP is kind of the cheap/naff brand. All the posh folks I know give their children only Aptamil!

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Anonymous wrote:What about Baby's Only formula? I haven't been in the game for a couple of years --- but I recall it is better than the rest of the US brands.

It’s for toddlers

It's for infants. Also for toddlers, if you don't want to give them cow milk.

Actually my pediatrician looked at the amounts of calcium and phosphous and said it was TOO high for an infant. It's not great for infants.

Mine was fine with it.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

American formula isn't shipped from overseas or left sitting in some overheated warehouse for days. I have much more confidence in the integrity of the manufacturing and supply chain for domestic brands sold in US drug or grocery stores.