Anonymous
Post 01/29/2018 10:28     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.


+1 EOTP is becoming more expensive than WOTP.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 19:39     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.


That's not it. The it is that you have decent schools k-12. I would happily give up two years of pk for that. I don't have that choice because of house prices. If I did (if I say got lucky and bought before prices skyrocketed) I would be happy to pay for prek to have great/good k-12 path.


Well, good for you that you would be happy to pay for private, I wasn't because our disposable income was already tight (and I wasn't going to use our limited savings for it, and did I mention that I bought a fixer upper?). The beauty is that I didn't have to, but was able to lottery into a school for which I could make the commute work, even though I now have good schools K-12. Just because you resent that doesn't mean that it's wrong for me to have participated in the lottery, as your post seems to suggest. I'm not any richer than many EOTP DCUMers.

Again, I'm not asking for PK3 WOTP. I'm just arguing against the notion that preschool isn't a financial burden for anyone on this side of town, and that just because you have good schools starting in K you shouldn't lottery for public preschool. Between apartment renters, condo owners, and people in very small houses, there is a bigger diversity of incomes over here than you might imagine.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 18:34     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So then take some of your hundreds of thousands in equity as a HELOC and pay for another year or two of childcare.


NP. Nope, I will just use PK3 (and maybe PK4) EOTP and then settle into my IB WOTP. There are plenty of good spots for ECE in DCPS without having to pay for private.


+1

What? No, no, no. I'm staying home with my kid. We bought a condo, not enough equity for HELOC to pay for private, but I can sure afford to take the next 15 years off.
I'm not driving EOTP in DC traffic twice a day to a school DC won't remember.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 18:22     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.


That's not it. The it is that you have decent schools k-12. I would happily give up two years of pk for that. I don't have that choice because of house prices. If I did (if I say got lucky and bought before prices skyrocketed) I would be happy to pay for prek to have great/good k-12 path.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 16:26     Subject: Re:Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The nastiness thrown at simply uninformed people looking for answers never ceases to amaze me on this board. "move" "get over it" "stupid" let's hope that at least all of these schools are teaching our kids to act better than us.


I said move. And it IS nasty and it IS ridiculous. But it’s the response I get here when I say I live eotr. So if people can tell me that then it’s fair game to tell others, right? Since it’s soooooo easy just to move.


"SHE STARTED IT!!!" --> yes, good life lesson.


Well the difference is I wasn’t being serious. I just wanted to high light the ridiculousness of telling someone to just move.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 16:23     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:

So then take some of your hundreds of thousands in equity as a HELOC and pay for another year or two of childcare.


NP. Nope, I will just use PK3 (and maybe PK4) EOTP and then settle into my IB WOTP. There are plenty of good spots for ECE in DCPS without having to pay for private.


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 16:22     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.


So then take some of your hundreds of thousands in equity as a HELOC and pay for another year or two of childcare.


Why do you think I should do that? As I said, I played the lottery and used public PK, just like the people EOTP who have the same if not more equity in their houses. Should they have taken out HELOCs too? Or do you reserve that advice for people in Ward 3?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 16:20     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?


So then take some of your hundreds of thousands in equity as a HELOC and pay for another year or two of childcare.


NP. Nope, I will just use PK3 (and maybe PK4) EOTP and then settle into my IB WOTP. There are plenty of good spots for ECE in DCPS without having to pay for private.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:26     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.


So then take some of your hundreds of thousands in equity as a HELOC and pay for another year or two of childcare.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:25     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


I guarantee you there is a place in-bounds for a school with PK3 that costs less than your apartment zoned for Murch...unless you have a situation like your parents bought an apartment and are renting it out to you for like half of market rent.

You might not like the neighborhood or apartment as much, but you have the option of doing it.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:24     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 has never had PK3.


True. Even a decade ago when the schools weren't crowding. Crowding has nothing to do with it.


It would be simple to tighten the boundaries, offer fewer K-5 classes and add two PK3 and PK4 for each WOTP school. There is nothing problematic (lol) about not doinf so.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:15     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.


+1. And even among the homeowners, there are people who bought small fixer uppers WOTP, maybe before prices of those climbed close to a million. That's the case for us, and with the budget we had back then, we'd today be looking IB for the Title 1 school where we attended PK. I'm not clamoring for PK3 to be made available WOTP, but please don't assume everyone in Ward 3 is rich, dropped a million on a house, and can easily afford private preschool for multiple kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:59     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 has never had PK3.


True. Even a decade ago when the schools weren't crowding. Crowding has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:52     Subject: Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
So many people on this board assume that just because someone lives WOTP, they are wealthy and own some SFH zoned for Janney. I just want to remind you that that is not always the case. My small family of three rents an apartment zoned for Murch. Even though we are years away from school aged for our kid, we live where we live because it's much less expansive than where we used to live EOTP. We're saving as much as we can to be able to buy a place, but that likely won't be in our current neighborhood. So for us, free pre-k 3 would be a huge bonus (which is why we will apply to many of the wonderful programs EOTP and just make it work with our commutes). Point being, please don't assume that everyone WOTP can afford private, and can afford to stay there as homeowners long term.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:17     Subject: Re:Where are the PK3 programs in west NW neighborhoods?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The nastiness thrown at simply uninformed people looking for answers never ceases to amaze me on this board. "move" "get over it" "stupid" let's hope that at least all of these schools are teaching our kids to act better than us.


I said move. And it IS nasty and it IS ridiculous. But it’s the response I get here when I say I live eotr. So if people can tell me that then it’s fair game to tell others, right? Since it’s soooooo easy just to move.


"SHE STARTED IT!!!" --> yes, good life lesson.