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Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

Stop opining on things you don't know about. The research shows that there are differences in brain structure of people with adhd versus those who don't have it. For some people, the brain development "catches up" and in other people it does not. They don't know why but there is ongoing research on this.

For example: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131015094030.htm

I have two boys with diagnosed ADD-inattentive. One of them I'm pretty sure is misdiagnosed despite having a very expensive and well-regarded psychologist do the testing. The other one is in late high school, has an otherwise high-IQ and has done exceedingly well with other interventions. We were at his well visit this past week and the pediatrician wants him on meds so he can make straight A's instead of the A/B's he gets now. She also warned me, before she talked to him in private, that he will be at risk of self-medicating if we don't consent to ADHD meds. DS, however, is a very serious athlete and while I'm sure there are some drugs and alcohol around it is hard to be recruited for your sport if you are always high so that seems a bit extreme. All in all, I feel like meds are the first answer for her, but the message we got from his psychologist was much more nuanced (she said he should be fine without meds and that they don't work as well for ADD-inattentive).

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Anonymous wrote:ADD is alarmingly overdiagnosed. 5% is the upper limit of valid diagnosis, but in actuality 33% of young boys are being diagnosed. That means for every 6 people on here who have been told their son has ADD, only one of them actually has the condituon. That is a potential of 5 boys being given amphetamines unnecessarily.

These parents are claiming their boys being on stimulants are a "Godsend", "miracle", and "life-changing". Well no sh*t captain obvious. Anyone taking a powerful amphetamine is going to see amazing results. Your results wont be so quick if you put thr hard work in as a parent and help guide yiur child through normal behavior challenges kids go through Of course now you have possibly permanantly altered your sons brain chemistry which carries long after exposure has ceased and this is assumingthry dont become addicts. Amphetimines should be a very last resort for those "real" 5% of actual ADD patients.

The problem I have with people like you is you've created an environment in which a large percentage of kids struggle, then you turn around and attack parents for trying to help their kids. The hard work is making fundamental changes to our education model but that hard work is out of the reach of most parents. I know at least one person who went and created her own school but I think we'd all agree that most of us aren't going to be able to do that. I know other parents who've pulled their kids out and are homeschooling, but again, many of us need to work to generate a paycheck.

So a better solution is to give 5 out of the 6 kids who are over diagnosed amphetamines? Addreall, the same drug that can cause Anhedonia? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3307593/

Exposure to addreall should be the absolute last resort. There is something seriously wrong with a society that jumps to these dangerous drugs that absolutly and clinically proven to sometimes have devastating permanent effects on their growing brains. 5 of our 6 kids are exposed necessarily.

I get it, take addreall to cram for a test, clean the fu*k out of your house, but daily use? You are nuts! You don't have to go any further than the adderall message boards to read from these people who are addicts and are dealing with long term devastating side effects.

This. Many of the parents I meet claim that they didn't take the decision to medicate lightly, yet they feed their kids processed food, and make zero attempt to eliminate foods with excitotoxins in them (casein, gluten, artificial dyes, soy, vegetable oils, and so on), which are likely aggravating the behaviors of their children by increasing glutamate. They couldn't explain how methylation works if their life depended on it, despite their kid almost certainly being positive for MTHFR mutations. They would never pay privately to have micronutrient testing done, because that's "extreme". The parents are overwhelmed in their own lives with the logistics of getting through each week (careers, commutes, sports and homework schedules for the kids, etc), so they get their kid medicated as opposed to doing the massively challenging job of actually researching what might be going on in the brains of their children and changing their lifestyles.

I'm glad that medicating enables these parents to live with themselves and sleep at night. However, they shouldn't be so sure that your young adult son will actually believe that you did everything in your power to help him when he realizes he's stuck dealing with a lifetime of erectile issues, likely due to the medication you put him on. And don't be so sure that your future DIL won't have opinions about how you handled it, too.

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It must be nice to be a perfect parent with all the answers

Nice, yes. But far from easy. Will you give it a try, for your kids?

DP. Aw, top PP. It's sweet of you to be concerned about a total stranger's kids on the Internet! But I think that the second PP probably knows a lot more about being a good parent to their kid than you do.

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Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

Stop opining on things you don't know about. The research shows that there are differences in brain structure of people with adhd versus those who don't have it. For some people, the brain development "catches up" and in other people it does not. They don't know why but there is ongoing research on this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

+1

And let's not forget all those food colorings, additives, high fructose corn syrup, pro essed oil, etc. etc. are getting this generation's kids super hyper. Not to mention thr constant exposure to screens, lights, games, movies, TV. Who wouldn"t be hyper after all that good food and entertainment 24×7?

NP +1. It makes me so angry when I see all these kids with behavioral problems and their parents give them plastic chemical 'food' for lunch/snack. My boys would be bouncing off the walls if I gave them that crap, too.

Parents very rarely seem to consider diet, enzymes, nutrition. I guess it's easier for them to blame something else and then medicate them. It's tragic.

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It must be nice to be a perfect parent with all the answers

Nice, yes. But far from easy. Will you give it a try, for your kids?

I can see your halo sparking from here. I’m the Pp who got my TJ kid to just short of age 13 before medication just couldn’t be avoided. No simple carbs. No artificial. Intense work with the school. Work with a child therapist. You name it, we did it. Until the kid with a 145 IQ was miserable, flunking 7th grade, and we were out of other options. But that doesn’t mean that my way was the right way. Maybe medicating sooner would have saved my kid a lot of frustration and unhappiness.

There is no one right way. Even if you find the magic solution for your kid, everyone’s kid is different. No one is a perfect parent. And lecturing other parents that they are doing it “wrong” is the sign of a sanctimony b*tch.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

+1

And let's not forget all those food colorings, additives, high fructose corn syrup, pro essed oil, etc. etc. are getting this generation's kids super hyper. Not to mention thr constant exposure to screens, lights, games, movies, TV. Who wouldn"t be hyper after all that good food and entertainment 24×7?

NP +1. It makes me so angry when I see all these kids with behavioral problems and their parents give them plastic chemical 'food' for lunch/snack. My boys would be bouncing off the walls if I gave them that crap, too.

Parents very rarely seem to consider diet, enzymes, nutrition. I guess it's easier for them to blame something else and then medicate them. It's tragic.

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It must be nice to be a perfect parent with all the answers

Nice, yes. But far from easy. Will you give it a try, for your kids?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

+1

And let's not forget all those food colorings, additives, high fructose corn syrup, pro essed oil, etc. etc. are getting this generation's kids super hyper. Not to mention thr constant exposure to screens, lights, games, movies, TV. Who wouldn"t be hyper after all that good food and entertainment 24×7?

NP +1. It makes me so angry when I see all these kids with behavioral problems and their parents give them plastic chemical 'food' for lunch/snack. My boys would be bouncing off the walls if I gave them that crap, too.

Parents very rarely seem to consider diet, enzymes, nutrition. I guess it's easier for them to blame something else and then medicate them. It's tragic.

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It must be nice to be a perfect parent with all the answers

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ADD is alarmingly overdiagnosed. 5% is the upper limit of valid diagnosis, but in actuality 33% of young boys are being diagnosed. That means for every 6 people on here who have been told their son has ADD, only one of them actually has the condituon. That is a potential of 5 boys being given amphetamines unnecessarily.

These parents are claiming their boys being on stimulants are a "Godsend", "miracle", and "life-changing". Well no sh*t captain obvious. Anyone taking a powerful amphetamine is going to see amazing results. Your results wont be so quick if you put thr hard work in as a parent and help guide yiur child through normal behavior challenges kids go through Of course now you have possibly permanantly altered your sons brain chemistry which carries long after exposure has ceased and this is assumingthry dont become addicts. Amphetimines should be a very last resort for those "real" 5% of actual ADD patients.

The problem I have with people like you is you've created an environment in which a large percentage of kids struggle, then you turn around and attack parents for trying to help their kids. The hard work is making fundamental changes to our education model but that hard work is out of the reach of most parents. I know at least one person who went and created her own school but I think we'd all agree that most of us aren't going to be able to do that. I know other parents who've pulled their kids out and are homeschooling, but again, many of us need to work to generate a paycheck.

So a better solution is to give 5 out of the 6 kids who are over diagnosed amphetamines? Addreall, the same drug that can cause Anhedonia? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3307593/

Exposure to addreall should be the absolute last resort. There is something seriously wrong with a society that jumps to these dangerous drugs that absolutly and clinically proven to sometimes have devastating permanent effects on their growing brains. 5 of our 6 kids are exposed necessarily.

I get it, take addreall to cram for a test, clean the fu*k out of your house, but daily use? You are nuts! You don't have to go any further than the adderall message boards to read from these people who are addicts and are dealing with long term devastating side effects.

I don’t know any parent who medicated a kid lightly. Or just because. And it takes a real asshole to use scare tactics on parents doing what they and their Socorro think is best for their kid. If you aren’t dealing with this decision, it is not your place to judge. Take your opinions of how others should parent and scare tactics somewhere else.

Plus, you know nothing about how Adderall works for ADHD. Maybe it gives you the pep to be a Stepford wife. And your kid the ability for a test. But in an ADHD brain, it is not an energy boost or something that helps you do a million things at once. If you feel wound up, energized, and like you can do it all, you don’t have ADHD and you are abusing it. In true ADHD, stimulants slow things down, and help people focus on one or two things, rather her than being overwhelmed and unable to start anything. You should not feel receding up. You should feel calmer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

+1

And let's not forget all those food colorings, additives, high fructose corn syrup, pro essed oil, etc. etc. are getting this generation's kids super hyper. Not to mention thr constant exposure to screens, lights, games, movies, TV. Who wouldn"t be hyper after all that good food and entertainment 24×7?

NP +1. It makes me so angry when I see all these kids with behavioral problems and their parents give them plastic chemical 'food' for lunch/snack. My boys would be bouncing off the walls if I gave them that crap, too.

Parents very rarely seem to consider diet, enzymes, nutrition. I guess it's easier for them to blame something else and then medicate them. It's tragic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ADD is alarmingly overdiagnosed. 5% is the upper limit of valid diagnosis, but in actuality 33% of young boys are being diagnosed. That means for every 6 people on here who have been told their son has ADD, only one of them actually has the condituon. That is a potential of 5 boys being given amphetamines unnecessarily.

These parents are claiming their boys being on stimulants are a "Godsend", "miracle", and "life-changing". Well no sh*t captain obvious. Anyone taking a powerful amphetamine is going to see amazing results. Your results wont be so quick if you put thr hard work in as a parent and help guide yiur child through normal behavior challenges kids go through Of course now you have possibly permanantly altered your sons brain chemistry which carries long after exposure has ceased and this is assumingthry dont become addicts. Amphetimines should be a very last resort for those "real" 5% of actual ADD patients.

The problem I have with people like you is you've created an environment in which a large percentage of kids struggle, then you turn around and attack parents for trying to help their kids. The hard work is making fundamental changes to our education model but that hard work is out of the reach of most parents. I know at least one person who went and created her own school but I think we'd all agree that most of us aren't going to be able to do that. I know other parents who've pulled their kids out and are homeschooling, but again, many of us need to work to generate a paycheck.

So a better solution is to give 5 out of the 6 kids who are over diagnosed amphetamines? Addreall, the same drug that can cause Anhedonia? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3307593/

Exposure to addreall should be the absolute last resort. There is something seriously wrong with a society that jumps to these dangerous drugs that absolutly and clinically proven to sometimes have devastating permanent effects on their growing brains. 5 of our 6 kids are exposed necessarily.

I get it, take addreall to cram for a test, clean the fu*k out of your house, but daily use? You are nuts! You don't have to go any further than the adderall message boards to read from these people who are addicts and are dealing with long term devastating side effects.

Dh has ADHD
DS older- has severe ADHD, combined type
DS younger- moderate ADHD, Inattentive type

Yes, it's hereditary.

That said, I have many friends that have boys and their boys do not have ADHD at all. So while it may seem like every boy has it, it really not true and the majority do not.

OP— to actually answer one of your questions. Yes. ADHD is highly hereditary. If a kid has ADHD, it is almost certain that mom and/or dad does too. In fact, there are adults who get diagnosed and treated becuase there kid is diagnosed, and they see the same issues in themselves. Happened to my DH. He is clearly ADHD. But, he self medicated with obscene amounts of caffeine— which is basically liquid Adderall. . Finally got treatment when out DC was diagnosed, and he saw how much medication helped. It helped him so much. Plus, he is off the Donald Trump Diet Coke Diet and now drinks almost no caffeine.

Also, what is with the school doing away recess times? What normal humand should sit for hours on end without moving? This is so cruel to kids.

We essentially send our kids to prisons. Even prisoners have more opportunities to move!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old started ADHD meds in 2nd grade, and they were life changing. He was basically unable to sit through class and starting to suffer a lot of anxiety and depression in school. As he's matured, the meds have mattered less. At this point as a high school sophomore taking lots of AP classes and no longer taking meds.

This tells me your son didn't have adhd. It was just immaturity. Seems like you drugged him just to make life easier. I get it, but it doesn't seem like he has adhd. I have a 12 yr old DS, and he was pretty challenging at 7, too. But, he doesn't have adhd. He was just a boy full of energy and lots of things going around his head, like most 7 yr olds.

+1

And let's not forget all those food colorings, additives, high fructose corn syrup, pro essed oil, etc. etc. are getting this generation's kids super hyper. Not to mention thr constant exposure to screens, lights, games, movies, TV. Who wouldn"t be hyper after all that good food and entertainment 24×7?