Anonymous wrote:What do mega churches do with donated cash?

Anonymous wrote:People should spend more of their time and money working with their own child to improve the schools and stop whining. A school is only as good as the kids and the families of the kids that attend. Its sad people think they need other people’s children to attend local failed schools to make them better. Look in the mirror, your schools are failing because of you and other people like you. You could eliminate all private and charter schools in the country and you would still have the same underperforming group of kids. Poor and failed schools are due to poor and failed parenting. Go to a private or charter school and the parents spend time with their children and push\help them succeed.

I have a feeling that if you swapped all the kids/parents from a failing school with all the kids/parents from a successful one, you would see the fortunes of the failing school largely reversed, and the successes of the "good" school end despite not changing funding or staffing at either school.

People should spend more of their time and money working with their own child to improve the schools and stop whining. A school is only as good as the kids and the families of the kids that attend. Its sad people think they need other people’s children to attend local failed schools to make them better. Look in the mirror, your schools are failing because of you and other people like you. You could eliminate all private and charter schools in the country and you would still have the same underperforming group of kids. Poor and failed schools are due to poor and failed parenting. Go to a private or charter school and the parents spend time with their children and push\help them succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:My children are not community property.

I'm going to give them every (perceived) advantage they can get to better compete with the other 7 billion human beings out there. P

Here's the deal no matter what opportunity you think you're going to give them , there's 99% chance they'll end up clocking in and out of buildings just like the kids who went to underperforming schools . Go for it

Nah, the underperforming kids will just sit at home smoking up and living off the dole.

Anonymous wrote:My children are not community property.

I'm going to give them every (perceived) advantage they can get to better compete with the other 7 billion human beings out there. P

Here's the deal no matter what opportunity you think you're going to give them , there's 99% chance they'll end up clocking in and out of buildings just like the kids who went to underperforming schools . Go for it

My children are not community property.

I'm going to give them every (perceived) advantage they can get to better compete with the other 7 billion human beings out there. P

Politically, private schools and charter schools and other types of school choice that cause people to abdicate their role in participating in an integrated community ARE problematic because they cause segregation.

There are many reasons why people choose to not participate in their neighborhood schools, ranging from overt racism to class consciousness to covert prejudice to laziness to having a child with special needs to having tried to engage with the neighborhood school and finding your child's needs are not being met.

It's more complicated than just saying "anything other than neighborhood schools is immoral." The ideal is that we have a public education system that services everyone equitably and fairly. That said, the social and cultural and economic realities of our country don't support that right now, and liberals want to effect that positive change to make great schools accessible to all.

It's not immoral to opt out of your neighborhood if you have a substantive reason to/you tried the neighborhood school/you vocalize that conflict. I did all three. It feels bad. I hate it. But we ultimately moved to a "better neighborhood school" which is the same type of selection that having the money to move affords you.

Is it immoral for an educated affluent family to move to Tenleytown to take advantage of a great public school as opposed to choosing to live in Randle Highlands so that your child can "help improve the school?" I'd say no. But the fact that the educational experience at both are so dramatically different yet in the same system is wrong and very troubling.

Anonymous wrote:I've always felt that "school choice" in DC is just racism in disguise. I'm from a small town in the deep south. All of the kids in town go to the same (very good) public schools. There is a private school, but most people choose it for religious reasons. My kids' high school was about 40% AA. It reflects the demographics of the town. We have almost no problems with racism. When we moved to DC the first time, I was really shocked by how racist the area felt after hearing about how wonderfully diverse and tolerant it was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/study-suggests-gentrification-has-boosted-integration-in-dc-schools/2017/12/18/f279f450-e43f-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_gentrification-459am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.21718a48bf82

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals have no trouble living with double standards and hypocrisy. This is just one example.

- another moderate R

Exactly.

I have no trouble stating that I would never, ever send my kids to a government factory public school. I don't care where I live.

Sure any republican or conservative sending their kid/kids to public school is a socialist. F*cking low life hippies sucking of the government tit.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so true:

"There’s no longer the belief that black people are racially inferior but that black culture is inferior."

Oh wow. Such a true statement

In examining my feelings, I feel like what I "think" I know about black culture is inferior-- but I also acknowledge that those perceptions are based on stereotypes. I think in my heart of hearts I see all my middle class black friends and family (and I have many black friends and am connect to a black family) as exceptions to black culture and not the rule. In my head I think of 2-parent, college educated, upwardly mobile blacks as embracing white culture. Totally unfair and most probably wrong -- but when I read this sentence it got me thinking and I think this is what I really feel underneath.

I need to work on this.

A two parent household is as white culture as sushi is American . You have to have a debilitating idiocy to think that two people of the opposite sex living under a roof like it's been done for thousands of years in every corner of this planet is quote 'white culture'. It appears that whatever good education you received in all your white enclave didn't serve you well
- signed a middle aged white woman

Good thing you were here to move this discussion forward.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so true:

"There’s no longer the belief that black people are racially inferior but that black culture is inferior."

Oh wow. Such a true statement

In examining my feelings, I feel like what I "think" I know about black culture is inferior-- but I also acknowledge that those perceptions are based on stereotypes. I think in my heart of hearts I see all my middle class black friends and family (and I have many black friends and am connect to a black family) as exceptions to black culture and not the rule. In my head I think of 2-parent, college educated, upwardly mobile blacks as embracing white culture. Totally unfair and most probably wrong -- but when I read this sentence it got me thinking and I think this is what I really feel underneath.

I need to work on this.

A two parent household is as white culture as sushi is American . You have to have a debilitating idiocy to think that two people of the opposite sex living under a roof like it's been done for thousands of years in every corner of this planet is quote 'white culture'. It appears that whatever good education you received in all your white enclave didn't serve you well
- signed a middle aged white woman

What do mega churches do with donated cash?

What the MIT researchers found was that conservatives give more to religious organizations, such as their own churches, and liberals more to secular recipients. Conservatives may give more overall, MIT says, but that's because they tend to be richer, so they have more money to give and get a larger tax benefit from giving it.

The degree of religious contribution is important, because a 2007 study by Indiana University found that only 10% to 25% of church donations end up being spent on social welfare purposes, of which assistance to the poor is only a subset. In other words, if you think of "giving" as "giving to the poor," a lot of the money donated by conservatives may be missing the target.

Think about that. Education spending for 13 years for all the children in our nation is about the same as our national defense.

Anonymous wrote:I see the point and it is somewhat true.

But, Republicans are immoral because they don't even vote to help the poor and working poor.

If Democrats & Republicans living in cities pull their kids from public schools then it harms those schools. But, you know what harms them more? A republican congress that guts everything in their lives from housing to health care to environmental contamination to funding for education and after-school and anti-poverty programs.

Explain republican giving then.... They tend to give more to charity (churches in particular), in part because they feel it is the role of private groups to help the poor and not the government's (I'm not saying they're right, that is just their position). That was the role of religious groups in the past, but has eroded to some degree as people became less religious.

Likewise, Republicans and conservatives tend to want to help people they know in their in-group more so than strangers, while Liberals/Democrats are the opposite.

Education in this country gets just about as many dollars as defense spending. Its just mostly at the k-12 level, with too much not spent in the classroom itself (40% not spent in classroom https://census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2017/cb17-97-public-education-finance.html ).

k-12 spending 634 billion in 2016
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66

Defense spending 585 billion in 2016.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/FY16-Budget/