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Anonymous wrote:what county and is this a protected class student

There is probably far more to the story than being told.

+1 Is OP independently wealthy so she can pay for this lawsuit?

Anonymous wrote:what county and is this a protected class student

There is probably far more to the story than being told.

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Ditto and ditto, but there are definitely teachers with small behavioral repertoires who can make kids with behavioral issues act out. Some teachers don't have the skills to handle some kids. Regardless this situation sounds like a real shit show and I can't imagine the parents are happy with the situation either.

What exactly is the school administration doing, OP?

There are also kids who are bad matches for teachers and act out, especially if it's a very young kid. This is not the teacher's fault or the kid's fault other than the kid being immature. I have seen kids in K who act out a lot and then they go to 1st grade with a teacher with a completely different classroom style and they are angels.

My son is in a K classroom with a teacher who has a master's in special ed and there aren't big discipline issues despite having a larger concentration of special needs students than most public school classrooms (including one who has a 1:1 aide). My friend's son is in a K classroom where two kids have constant meltdowns and are segregated from the rest of the class. She has said the teacher just doesn't have the same knack for dealing with difficult kids that my son's teacher does.

This happens. Some teaches are just magical. signed: non-magical, but effective teacher

We were in a mixed classroom and it was horrible. My child was forced along with all the IEP kids and a group of non-IEP kids. They had multiple staff and none could find the right balance. A few kids should have been in specialized placements BUT, the real issue is that the school systems are no longer generous and most of us who are in public with SN kids are so tapped out paying for private services that we cannot pay for both. We switched our kid out of the classroom after a long battle and this year is so much better. BUT, we have a teacher who has taken the time to know my child vs. the other one who just saw IEP and assumed he was not capable and held him back. It takes really good teachers but those are few and far between.

As far as parents complaining, its pointless. I complained all last year and got the blow off. I wanted my child removed. Our school only allows select parents, rarely the SN parents to come in and volunteer. Everything is closed and shut off to parents. Really makes you wonder what is going on.

what county and is this a protected class student

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Anonymous wrote:If you sue a parent, do you think your current school would want to keep you? Do you think any other school would really hire you? If I found out you sued a parent, regardless of the reason, there is no way I'd want my child in your classroom.

How would you know? Parent grapevine? I know nothing about my child’s teachers that they haven’t told us themselves.

Google is your friend. Facebooks, social media and the case searches - all free in this area via the court. Our is on case search for speeding.

I'm a teacher and we've had a few students with violent behavior in recent years. It seems as though different principals have the resources to fast track situations like these and others don't. In once case, the parents weren't on board with the process and "didn't understand what he/she had to be so angry about". Meanwhile this child was hitting, throwing things, biting, and generally causing destruction. Other children and staff members were getting assaulted. The classroom had to be evacuated multiple times because the student was so out of control. In the child's rage, they destroyed a lot of property that belonged to the school and to the teacher personally. Sometimes the child would leave the school and that was the only thing that had any impact on the parent because the police had to be called in those situations.

It took 2 years for the child to be placed in a more appropriate setting.

As a parent, if I had a child in that classroom I would be on the phone every day with the principal and the principal's boss asking how they were able to ensure my child's safety. I teach in a high FARMS school and the parents don't always know the power they carry and nothing happened. Since there was no pressure from other parents, the principal didn't feel pressure to fast track the situation.

I understand OP's dilemma about calling the union because in cases like these, a lot depends on your administration. Although it shouldn't happen, sometimes going to the union can backfire on you because principals hate having to deal with that if the union contacts them and they resent you for it which means you might win the battle but you'll lose the war. They take it as a blow to their ego that someone is telling them what they have to do because they think they have all the power over teachers and staff. A great principal would do what they need to do to protect the other students and the teacher and other staff. How do I know? It happened to me, but luckily not on this level.

I would tell OP to continue documenting and get to the doctor to have the injuries documented. It can wreak havoc on you mentally and emotionally because you never know what you're in for on any given day. And it's not like this student is the only one in the class--there are still 20 something other students to plan for and instruct every day. Once the injuries have been documented with the doctor, I would ask for a meeting with the principal to better understand what the timeline, contingencies and barriers are. If it is a long-term plan vs. a short-term plan then I would contact the union. If it's really impacting your mental health then see if your doctor will sign off on medical leave. If you remain in the classroom, request that another staff member be in your classroom with you at all times.

Teachers should not be martyrs and no job should allow physical and mental injury to occur, even if it's at the hands of a child. There should be procedures in place to safeguard against this when the issue first starts to present itself.

I have heard of an elementary kid who was violent, who attacked and injured staff multiple times. Admin eventually called the POLICE to document incidents, despite the existence of an IEP, because the parent was delaying the alternative placement process. It worked.

Are people at your school trained in CPI?

OP- Did you go to the doctor?

Anonymous wrote:Since he is not considered special ed, why hasn't he been suspended or expelled?

Former teacher here. In HS this would be the case, and whether or not the teacher pressed charges might determine which of the two was determined. In ES I would imagine it's more complicated. OP I wonder if the threat of expulsion would change the parents' views on having their child tested for special needs. I agree that you should ask the union for advice.

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Ditto and ditto, but there are definitely teachers with small behavioral repertoires who can make kids with behavioral issues act out. Some teachers don't have the skills to handle some kids. Regardless this situation sounds like a real shit show and I can't imagine the parents are happy with the situation either.

What exactly is the school administration doing, OP?

There are also kids who are bad matches for teachers and act out, especially if it's a very young kid. This is not the teacher's fault or the kid's fault other than the kid being immature. I have seen kids in K who act out a lot and then they go to 1st grade with a teacher with a completely different classroom style and they are angels.

My son is in a K classroom with a teacher who has a master's in special ed and there aren't big discipline issues despite having a larger concentration of special needs students than most public school classrooms (including one who has a 1:1 aide). My friend's son is in a K classroom where two kids have constant meltdowns and are segregated from the rest of the class. She has said the teacher just doesn't have the same knack for dealing with difficult kids that my son's teacher does.

This happens. Some teaches are just magical. signed: non-magical, but effective teacher

Do you call the parents when tbe kid misbehaves? What did the student's teacher from last year do?

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Anonymous wrote:
Ditto and ditto, but there are definitely teachers with small behavioral repertoires who can make kids with behavioral issues act out. Some teachers don't have the skills to handle some kids. Regardless this situation sounds like a real shit show and I can't imagine the parents are happy with the situation either.

What exactly is the school administration doing, OP?

There are also kids who are bad matches for teachers and act out, especially if it's a very young kid. This is not the teacher's fault or the kid's fault other than the kid being immature. I have seen kids in K who act out a lot and then they go to 1st grade with a teacher with a completely different classroom style and they are angels.

My son is in a K classroom with a teacher who has a master's in special ed and there aren't big discipline issues despite having a larger concentration of special needs students than most public school classrooms (including one who has a 1:1 aide). My friend's son is in a K classroom where two kids have constant meltdowns and are segregated from the rest of the class. She has said the teacher just doesn't have the same knack for dealing with difficult kids that my son's teacher does.

Anonymous wrote:
Ditto and ditto, but there are definitely teachers with small behavioral repertoires who can make kids with behavioral issues act out. Some teachers don't have the skills to handle some kids. Regardless this situation sounds like a real shit show and I can't imagine the parents are happy with the situation either.

What exactly is the school administration doing, OP?

There are also kids who are bad matches for teachers and act out, especially if it's a very young kid. This is not the teacher's fault or the kid's fault other than the kid being immature. I have seen kids in K who act out a lot and then they go to 1st grade with a teacher with a completely different classroom style and they are angels.

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Anonymous wrote:If you sue a parent, do you think your current school would want to keep you? Do you think any other school would really hire you? If I found out you sued a parent, regardless of the reason, there is no way I'd want my child in your classroom.

How would you know? Parent grapevine? I know nothing about my child’s teachers that they haven’t told us themselves.

Lawsuits are public and, yes, parents gossip. I would also do everything to keep my child out of your classroom. I hope you do sue so that your name is made public and you become an Internet joke. Please do it!