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Anonymous wrote:The idea that there are large groups of young women surgically altering their faces is horrible. If everyone just kept their noses it would be normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to be in the "wait until 18" camp but I'm watching my really well endowed daughter struggle with how well endowed she is, and I'm finding myself thinking that if she asked for a reduction at 16 or so, I'd probably take her to talk to a doctor.

Find a doctor you trust. Talk to the doctor.

Off topic, but I have two friends who had breast reductions in their late teens/early 20s who were not able to breastfeed after they had children. They claim no-one ever told them about that side effect. I think they were told but didn't pay attention.

I had a Breast reduction right before my 18th birthday. 4 years later at 22, I couldn't breastfeed easily. Lactation consultant blamed the reduction. I am not a fan of the scars and my nipples now, it didn't end up as nice as I had pictured. Plus they grew back when I gained weight.

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING wrong with someone having a nose job to fix a nose they hate. That person is the one who has to look at it for their entire life. The PP opining against nose jobs are jack-holes. Yes, let your DD have one as soon as she is 16 or so, whenever the doctor says its okay.

The problem is that they hate their nose because it doesn't look like Irish Jessica's nose. That's what's sad and wrong. Your typical, Western European white girl is not surgically altering herself to look like a culture that isn't hers. It is a sad, sad thing.

Sure she is. She's getting breast augmentation, or whatever people do to make a non-flat butt. She's doing things to make her lips larger or her eye-lashes more noticeable. She's bleaching her teeth and spending hours on her hair and makeup.

Some of these things are minor and we don't even think about it. Others we criticize. Many of these women and girls are spending large amounts of time monitoring their eating and exercise to try and fit within a window of acceptable body types. This affects everyone.

I don't think it's any one persons responsibility to be the champion of a particular feature. If OPs daughter hates her nose, and OP has no reason to think it's a symptom of a larger issue, then why on earth should it fall to OPs daughter to thwart all the messages women get blasted with? There's nothing wrong with doing things for yourself even if they conform to an intrusive, abusive culture. OPs daughter has to live with her nose.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeez dude, I'm Armenian and nose jobs are a #1 popular procedure in Yerevan because among our many blessings are huge, prominent noses. No girl wants that, we always hated it and the second we could, all the girls rushed to correct. It doesn't make us look any whiter, we still love our black hair, thick eyebrows and olive skin, but an authentic Armenian nose, no thank you, keep it, I'll take my smaller straight one now. Stop with shaming people for wanting to improve their appearance.

Sounds to me like you are just trying to fit into the white Western European society to climb the social ladder.

Anonymous wrote:Jeez dude, I'm Armenian and nose jobs are a #1 popular procedure in Yerevan because among our many blessings are huge, prominent noses. No girl wants that, we always hated it and the second we could, all the girls rushed to correct. It doesn't make us look any whiter, we still love our black hair, thick eyebrows and olive skin, but an authentic Armenian nose, no thank you, keep it, I'll take my smaller straight one now. Stop with shaming people for wanting to improve their appearance.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to be in the "wait until 18" camp but I'm watching my really well endowed daughter struggle with how well endowed she is, and I'm finding myself thinking that if she asked for a reduction at 16 or so, I'd probably take her to talk to a doctor.

Find a doctor you trust. Talk to the doctor.

Off topic, but I have two friends who had breast reductions in their late teens/early 20s who were not able to breastfeed after they had children. They claim no-one ever told them about that side effect. I think they were told but didn't pay attention.

Anonymous wrote:Jeez dude, I'm Armenian and nose jobs are a #1 popular procedure in Yerevan because among our many blessings are huge, prominent noses. No girl wants that, we always hated it and the second we could, all the girls rushed to correct. It doesn't make us look any whiter, we still love our black hair, thick eyebrows and olive skin, but an authentic Armenian nose, no thank you, keep it, I'll take my smaller straight one now. Stop with shaming people for wanting to improve their appearance.

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Anonymous wrote:This would give me pause, as DH has a friend who got a nose job in HS and really regrets it. It doesn’t fit her face and she would have grown into her old nose— she’s gorgeous but at most would have been better off with a very slightly altered Jose— this was the 80s and she had her “Jewish” nose drastically trimmed to a button. Her teen daughter has her old nose (so to speak!) and is gorgeous.

I don't buy that. It's easy to regret it now that her nose is small. She forgets how much she hated that big honker. I know tons of people with nose jobs and not one ever regretted it.

Anonymous wrote:This would give me pause, as DH has a friend who got a nose job in HS and really regrets it. It doesn’t fit her face and she would have grown into her old nose— she’s gorgeous but at most would have been better off with a very slightly altered Jose— this was the 80s and she had her “Jewish” nose drastically trimmed to a button. Her teen daughter has her old nose (so to speak!) and is gorgeous.

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Anonymous wrote:How is it different than braces? People have no problems altering teeth for cosmetic reasons. As far as I know, no one in our family has ever had cosmetic surgery, so I don't care personally but I can see there are some things, like the breast reduction (or a nose job for a nose that is far, far outside the mainstream) that I could agree to for under 18.

My DD is 14 and has braces. She has them because without them her adult teeth will fall out in her early 20's. I do not want that for her.