Anonymous wrote:Maybe everyone should open their eyes. This school district has actually been in the toilet for the last 5-10 years due to 30+ years of increasing abuse and uneducated, unskilled families now the bulk of the populace.

No Bethesda/Potomac subsidized massive county with 200+ schools, 100s of new esol resources, $ millions of free lunches and supply giveaways, can do anything to stop the downward spiral. Just attracts more if the same and accelerates the curriculum and student body demise.

And ppl ask why privates have <10% acceptance rates and the ability increase tuition 5-8% per year. Ever notice almost a third of Bethesda and Potomac goes private nowadays??!??

We certainly would have stayed in DC and not bothered w this nonsense. mCPs definition of a “great school” (ie good scores on proficiency tests) is laughable.

Where did you get this number from?

Maybe everyone should open their eyes. This school district has actually been in the toilet for the last 5-10 years due to 30+ years of increasing abuse and uneducated, unskilled families now the bulk of the populace.

No Bethesda/Potomac subsidized massive county with 200+ schools, 100s of new esol resources, $ millions of free lunches and supply giveaways, can do anything to stop the downward spiral. Just attracts more if the same and accelerates the curriculum and student body demise.

And ppl ask why privates have <10% acceptance rates and the ability increase tuition 5-8% per year. Ever notice almost a third of Bethesda and Potomac goes private nowadays??!??

We certainly would have stayed in DC and not bothered w this nonsense. mCPs definition of a “great school” (ie good scores on proficiency tests) is laughable.

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This. MCPS does not have the resources to go after this.

We know of several families that have done this over the years without any consequences.

It’s not a big issue.

It's ok to commit fraud, if the odds are that nobody will catch you?

I’m pretty sure lots of people feel that way.

I’m an immigrant and in most other countries around the world, rules are just ‘suggestions’. Anything can be purchased with a bribe and you can work your way around rules that you don’t like. At least, that’s how it is in my home country!

My kids attend the schools they are zoned for but we know of several families in my ‘cultural community’ who work their way around this. Like the PP said, MCPS can’t ask for proof of citizenship and so they’re also somewhat lax in asking for proof of residency. And at least IME, it is very easy for these families to get a utility bill sent to a different address. Any family member or close family friend is willing to help out!

Yes, my grandmother (who grew up in Russian Poland) also had this cultural belief. She thought that rule-following was for children and fools. But the cultural belief in the US is different -- or at least it used to be.

Yeah, that American value disintegrated a couple decades ago and was replaced with the Handout Era and I Get Mine mentality from anyone who dislikes others who have more education, better jobs, homes , cars, than themselves. Stick it to those evil white collar couples. Rich America can pay for it, the streets here are paved w gold.

And I say this as it is exactly what our turkish relatives think. We have money pouring out of our home. Never mind we each have worked 50-70 hours weeks since graduating in 2001, have two kids, student debt and a mortgage. I guess we’re the middle class suckers that pay all the taxes so the tippy top and broad bottom get their freebies.

OP, I would suggest that you don't rent out your house, DC tenant landlord laws are tenant friendly. We rented out our basement apartment to someone who we thought was reputable. They cleared the background, financial and criminal checks. The tenant paid rent the for 8 months, and then stopped paying. Tenant laws in DC say that the only way for a tenant to be evicted is through court order. It can take many months for the judge to rule in your favor. In the process the judge wants you and the tenant to mediate until there is a point that you can't mediate anymore. The tenant we rented to cost us over 4 months in rent.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can rent a one bd apartment and make it your second home. Your child can stay there during the week. It is perfectly legal.

There are families that do this. Less expensive than paying tuition probabaly?

For FY 2016 (two years ago), MCPS non-resident tuition for secondary school was $14,299. Are there many market-rate one-bedroom apartments available in Bethesda or Potomac for less than $1,192 per month?

Lots of people are willing to rent out a room or rent out a bedroom in their condo/townhouse. For $600/month it is a fantastic deal! Cheaper than private school.

My neighbor rents out tiny rooms in her house and she charges $1300/month and this is the WJ cluster. I seriously doubt she'd rent to a high schooler either - who would want to be mommy to another kid that they don't even know?

Umm, the kid doesn’t actually live there! They just use that address and keep their current home. Pay the rent and use the address to fulfill MCPS residency requirements. I’m mom practice.

Well, sign me up then - where's my high school kid??
Only, the homeowner has to write this all up on their taxes as income and possibly deduct capital expenses against the room charge which seems like a huge hassle that has consequences when you sell your home. So, most likely it's not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:

This. MCPS does not have the resources to go after this.

We know of several families that have done this over the years without any consequences.

It’s not a big issue.

It's ok to commit fraud, if the odds are that nobody will catch you?

I’m pretty sure lots of people feel that way.

I’m an immigrant and in most other countries around the world, rules are just ‘suggestions’. Anything can be purchased with a bribe and you can work your way around rules that you don’t like. At least, that’s how it is in my home country!

My kids attend the schools they are zoned for but we know of several families in my ‘cultural community’ who work their way around this. Like the PP said, MCPS can’t ask for proof of citizenship and so they’re also somewhat lax in asking for proof of residency. And at least IME, it is very easy for these families to get a utility bill sent to a different address. Any family member or close family friend is willing to help out!

Yes, my grandmother (who grew up in Russian Poland) also had this cultural belief. She thought that rule-following was for children and fools. But the cultural belief in the US is different -- or at least it used to be.

It’s not really different here in the US anymore. Especially in Montgomery County. People come here knowing that even if there are here ‘against the rules’, they are well taken care of. If one set of people does not have to follow the rules, then it becomes pretty well accepted!

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can rent a one bd apartment and make it your second home. Your child can stay there during the week. It is perfectly legal.

There are families that do this. Less expensive than paying tuition probabaly?

For FY 2016 (two years ago), MCPS non-resident tuition for secondary school was $14,299. Are there many market-rate one-bedroom apartments available in Bethesda or Potomac for less than $1,192 per month?

Lots of people are willing to rent out a room or rent out a bedroom in their condo/townhouse. For $600/month it is a fantastic deal! Cheaper than private school.

My neighbor rents out tiny rooms in her house and she charges $1300/month and this is the WJ cluster. I seriously doubt she'd rent to a high schooler either - who would want to be mommy to another kid that they don't even know?

Umm, the kid doesn’t actually live there! They just use that address and keep their current home. Pay the rent and use the address to fulfill MCPS residency requirements. I’m mom practice.

It’s easy money! And both parties win out.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can rent a one bd apartment and make it your second home. Your child can stay there during the week. It is perfectly legal.

There are families that do this. Less expensive than paying tuition probabaly?

For FY 2016 (two years ago), MCPS non-resident tuition for secondary school was $14,299. Are there many market-rate one-bedroom apartments available in Bethesda or Potomac for less than $1,192 per month?

Lots of people are willing to rent out a room or rent out a bedroom in their condo/townhouse. For $600/month it is a fantastic deal! Cheaper than private school.

My neighbor rents out tiny rooms in her house and she charges $1300/month and this is the WJ cluster. I seriously doubt she'd rent to a high schooler either - who would want to be mommy to another kid that they don't even know?

Umm, the kid doesn’t actually live there! They just use that address and keep their current home. Pay the rent and use the address to fulfill MCPS residency requirements. I’m mom practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a post article about a DC family paying tuition to attend BCC in 2008: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032901119.html

The dad runs an 'anti-poverty charity' but the daughter didn't want to be near those kinds of people? Interesting

In today's world, a kid doing this would be publicly skewered.

I don't remember this story, but I remember 2008, and this kind of thing didn't go over well then either.

I'm tickled by the idea that B-CC is "really representative of our world". It depends on who "we" is, I guess.

Jay Mathews just did a story about Maryland and Virginia residents paying to send their kids to D.C. Schools (mostly Ellington, the music magnet.). So these things do happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a post article about a DC family paying tuition to attend BCC in 2008: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032901119.html

The dad runs an 'anti-poverty charity' but the daughter didn't want to be near those kinds of people? Interesting

In today's world, a kid doing this would be publicly skewered.

I don't remember this story, but I remember 2008, and this kind of thing didn't go over well then either.

I'm tickled by the idea that B-CC is "really representative of our world". It depends on who "we" is, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a post article about a DC family paying tuition to attend BCC in 2008: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032901119.html

The dad runs an 'anti-poverty charity' but the daughter didn't want to be near those kinds of people? Interesting

In today's world, a kid doing this would be publicly skewered.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a post article about a DC family paying tuition to attend BCC in 2008: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/29/AR2008032901119.html

That was nearly 10 years ago. bcC is so overcapacity now, I doubt they would allow additional non-state residents.

Yes, and even at the time it sounds like there had been a principal change making it unlikely at BCC. Nonetheless, OP asked if it was possible, and certainly sounds like there is a method, but the first step is a willing principal. There must be someone at MCPS who could say whether anyone is currently doing this at the time of the article there were 58.

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Anonymous wrote:

This. MCPS does not have the resources to go after this.

We know of several families that have done this over the years without any consequences.

It’s not a big issue.

It's ok to commit fraud, if the odds are that nobody will catch you?

I’m pretty sure lots of people feel that way.

I’m an immigrant and in most other countries around the world, rules are just ‘suggestions’. Anything can be purchased with a bribe and you can work your way around rules that you don’t like. At least, that’s how it is in my home country!

My kids attend the schools they are zoned for but we know of several families in my ‘cultural community’ who work their way around this. Like the PP said, MCPS can’t ask for proof of citizenship and so they’re also somewhat lax in asking for proof of residency. And at least IME, it is very easy for these families to get a utility bill sent to a different address. Any family member or close family friend is willing to help out!

Yes, my grandmother (who grew up in Russian Poland) also had this cultural belief. She thought that rule-following was for children and fools. But the cultural belief in the US is different -- or at least it used to be.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can rent a one bd apartment and make it your second home. Your child can stay there during the week. It is perfectly legal.

There are families that do this. Less expensive than paying tuition probabaly?

For FY 2016 (two years ago), MCPS non-resident tuition for secondary school was $14,299. Are there many market-rate one-bedroom apartments available in Bethesda or Potomac for less than $1,192 per month?

Lots of people are willing to rent out a room or rent out a bedroom in their condo/townhouse. For $600/month it is a fantastic deal! Cheaper than private school.

My neighbor rents out tiny rooms in her house and she charges $1300/month and this is the WJ cluster. I seriously doubt she'd rent to a high schooler either - who would want to be mommy to another kid that they don't even know?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can rent a one bd apartment and make it your second home. Your child can stay there during the week. It is perfectly legal.

There are families that do this. Less expensive than paying tuition probabaly?

For FY 2016 (two years ago), MCPS non-resident tuition for secondary school was $14,299. Are there many market-rate one-bedroom apartments available in Bethesda or Potomac for less than $1,192 per month?

Lots of people are willing to rent out a room or rent out a bedroom in their condo/townhouse. For $600/month it is a fantastic deal! Cheaper than private school.

Especially if the person who is supposedly the tenant actually lives with their parents in DC.