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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Finally a judge delivered the correct sentence. This should be shown as an example to other judges of what to do.

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Part of the reason that this sentence approached appropriately tough is that Scientology shielded Masterson as well as stalking and harassing the victims. He should have just taken his lumps back when this was first brought up; he hid behind his cult.

This.

It’s truly horrifying what the victims went through first from Danny and then from Scientology operatives—and I’m looking forward to the civil lawsuit that will allow what they do to be out in full display.
Unfortunately they have a ridiculous amount of money and could bankrupt the litigants before they get to a judgement, but maybe the public will finally be ready to hear it.

It would be fascinating to know how they’re going to spin this internally. The message for years within Scientology has been that Danny was innocent.

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Finally a judge delivered the correct sentence. This should be shown as an example to other judges of what to do.

+1

Part of the reason that this sentence approached appropriately tough is that Scientology shielded Masterson as well as stalking and harassing the victims. He should have just taken his lumps back when this was first brought up; he hid behind his cult.

This.

It’s truly horrifying what the victims went through first from Danny and then from Scientology operatives—and I’m looking forward to the civil lawsuit that will allow what they do to be out in full display.
Unfortunately they have a ridiculous amount of money and could bankrupt the litigants before they get to a judgement, but maybe the public will finally be ready to hear it.

The outrage over this verdict is mystifying. They finally get it right and you mad?

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Finally a judge delivered the correct sentence. This should be shown as an example to other judges of what to do.

+1

Part of the reason that this sentence approached appropriately tough is that Scientology shielded Masterson as well as stalking and harassing the victims. He should have just taken his lumps back when this was first brought up; he hid behind his cult.

Anonymous wrote:I like the PPs that are outraged that a convicted serial rapist was given something more than a slap on the wrist

They keep telling on themselves, don’t they?

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Finally a judge delivered the correct sentence. This should be shown as an example to other judges of what to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of such a sentence 30 to life is more than many murderers receive.

I am shocked.

I think the victims may have been minors

Looking at the California penal code, the only rape charge that assesses "15 years to life" is the rape of a minor under 14. So do that x2 victims and it's 30 to life.

See para 264 for the typical rape penalty - 3, 6, or 8 years for each count
See para 269 for penalty against minors under 14:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&division=&title=9.&part=1.&chapter=1.&article=

Nope, they were in their 20s.

Prosecutors alleged that Masterson raped a 23-year-old woman sometime in 2001; a 28-year-old woman in April 2003; and a 23-year-old woman between October and December 2003.

https://people.com/tv/danny-masterson-charged-rape-timeline-of-allegations/

Then its not clear to me how he gets 30 years to life. If he already has a felony conviction in California ('one strike'), I think he can get sentencing enhancements under the "3 strikes" framework.

But looking at the penal code I don't see how he could be facing at a life sentence. I'm wondering if he triggered the 3 Strikes rule, which is 25 years to life (not 30).

He will be eligible for parole in his late 70s. Apparently, this is the relevant part of the penal code.

That must be a new law since Brock Turner basically got away with rape in CA.

The judge was the problem in the Brock Turner case. Judges have a lot of discretion in sentencing. The community voted him out of a job after this happened.

People who seem unfamiliar with this case - there’s full trial coverage here: https://www.legalaffairsandtrials.com/p/full-coverage-of-danny-mastersons

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of such a sentence 30 to life is more than many murderers receive.

I am shocked.

I think the victims may have been minors

Looking at the California penal code, the only rape charge that assesses "15 years to life" is the rape of a minor under 14. So do that x2 victims and it's 30 to life.

See para 264 for the typical rape penalty - 3, 6, or 8 years for each count
See para 269 for penalty against minors under 14:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&division=&title=9.&part=1.&chapter=1.&article=

Nope, they were in their 20s.

Prosecutors alleged that Masterson raped a 23-year-old woman sometime in 2001; a 28-year-old woman in April 2003; and a 23-year-old woman between October and December 2003.

https://people.com/tv/danny-masterson-charged-rape-timeline-of-allegations/

Then its not clear to me how he gets 30 years to life. If he already has a felony conviction in California ('one strike'), I think he can get sentencing enhancements under the "3 strikes" framework.

But looking at the penal code I don't see how he could be facing at a life sentence. I'm wondering if he triggered the 3 Strikes rule, which is 25 years to life (not 30).

He will be eligible for parole in his late 70s. Apparently, this is the relevant part of the penal code.

That must be a new law since Brock Turner basically got away with rape in CA.

I like the PPs that are outraged that a convicted serial rapist was given something more than a slap on the wrist

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this article in my newsfeed. https://www.yahoo.com/news/netflix-takes-no-action-against-003009931.html
I was unaware that Danny Masterson is a Scientologist. I grew up in a different very secretive international cult in which there was a lot of child abuse (including sexual abuse). All matters were resolved within the community, and it was against the rules to take internal matters to the police. Some situations did end up in court but only because ex members and relatives of members initiated the process. I have seen how almost impossible it can be to bring members of such secretive cults to justice, so it's not hard to believe that Scientology squashed the allegations and silenced the accusers.

Sadly, those who do NOT believe that Scientology very effectively squashed this and protected him for years likely do not know anything about Scientology.
If you’re interested, the Lawrence Wright book is very good (non Scientologist), as is a book by a former top-level insider Marc Headley titled Blown for Good.
Leah Remini’s book is also really good for shedding light on how celebrities are treated and revered…but also since she was 14 when her mom brought her into the organization (which they call a “religion” only for tax shelter purposes and so that they can shout about religious bigotry when someone raises concerns), she has a unique take on all sides—regular casual member, Sea Org member (which is like the ultra cultish signing a billion-year-contract to work for the org for peanuts), and celebrity member….finally turned EX-member.

Members don’t cross what the Scientology leadsership tells them to do out of fear. The hook in the first place is that if bad things are happening to you, then it’s because you are sonehow connected to a “suppressive” person. If you go against the organization, then any friends or family members are told that you are clearly being influenced by a suppressive person and perhaps are turning into a suppressive person yourself, so they need to disconnect from you or lose their eternity for the next bazillion lifetimes. So you can go against them—but it’s at the risk of losing contact with anyone and everyone who has ever meant anythning to you. But yeah—you’re free to leave though. Go right ahead…It’s very scary.

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

Some murderers get life and some get death.

I have no problem with this sentence. The others cited should have gotten more.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of such a sentence 30 to life is more than many murderers receive.

I am shocked.

I think the victims may have been minors

Looking at the California penal code, the only rape charge that assesses "15 years to life" is the rape of a minor under 14. So do that x2 victims and it's 30 to life.

See para 264 for the typical rape penalty - 3, 6, or 8 years for each count
See para 269 for penalty against minors under 14:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&division=&title=9.&part=1.&chapter=1.&article=

Nope, they were in their 20s.

Prosecutors alleged that Masterson raped a 23-year-old woman sometime in 2001; a 28-year-old woman in April 2003; and a 23-year-old woman between October and December 2003.

https://people.com/tv/danny-masterson-charged-rape-timeline-of-allegations/

Then its not clear to me how he gets 30 years to life. If he already has a felony conviction in California ('one strike'), I think he can get sentencing enhancements under the "3 strikes" framework.

But looking at the penal code I don't see how he could be facing at a life sentence. I'm wondering if he triggered the 3 Strikes rule, which is 25 years to life (not 30).

He will be eligible for parole in his late 70s. Apparently, this is the relevant part of the penal code.

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Anonymous wrote:30-life sounds right. I"m sure he'll aslo get to experience what his victims experienced.

Doesn't that seem like a lot for the rape of two women? Yes he deserves prison but it sounds like more than is usually handed. Mike Tyson got 3 years for one rape. Most men either get off with no jail time or only do a few months. Brock Turner - 6 months and was released 3 months early.

It's more than most rapists get, but certainly 25 years is not too much for raping someone. All the other sentences were way, WAY too short.

I know someone in MD who got 30 years for gang raping and robbing her (a minor) with a gun. 30+ years seems excessive.

Stop comparing his sentence to other people's and compare his sentence to his crime. 25 years is NOT too long for rape. Please do not downplay how wrong it is to rape.

OK but society should not be handing 6 month sentences to one person and LIFE sentences to another. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment which is illegal. So where is the justification?

His sentence is not too harsh. The other sentences are not harsh enough.