Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
This is the part that's so weird to me. You all don't have kids and you have one of these? Why? One of the other families has one of these, but didn't even bother to get a decent beach chair? You all had three of these things set up in a row? No wonder beaches are banning these things.
Yeah, because everything we bought the umbrellas, they either blew away or didn't provide adequate shade.
Both other couples have the beach tent things that look kinda like camping chairs. One of them is kinda using theirs and they have proper beach chairs. The other couple with two kids didn't use their tent at all because they didn't like it for whatever reason and they have stadium chairs.
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
This is the part that's so weird to me. You all don't have kids and you have one of these? Why? One of the other families has one of these, but didn't even bother to get a decent beach chair? You all had three of these things set up in a row? No wonder beaches are banning these things.
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Huh?
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
I don't need help getting my kids ready for the beach, and DH is equipped to schlep the gear and set things up by himself.
I'm wondering if the younger generation of women is more needy and controlling? I know the younger generation is definitely not equipped to use their words...probably because they were raised by helicopter moms who supervised their play dates and handled every interaction for them.
Maybe that's true. This couple definitely seems like they need a lot of help, because they have an au pair traveling with them and still seem to be struggling.
As far as neediness, out of two of us, my husband is definitely more needy, while I'm more controlling/type A
Type A people aren't afraid to use their words. Type A people take control and ensure they come out on top. You just sound cranky and whiny.
Yes, I'm cranky and whiny from sitting in the sun and having to fight over my chair.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Huh?
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
I don't need help getting my kids ready for the beach, and DH is equipped to schlep the gear and set things up by himself.
I'm wondering if the younger generation of women is more needy and controlling? I know the younger generation is definitely not equipped to use their words...probably because they were raised by helicopter moms who supervised their play dates and handled every interaction for them.
Maybe that's true. This couple definitely seems like they need a lot of help, because they have an au pair traveling with them and still seem to be struggling.
As far as neediness, out of two of us, my husband is definitely more needy, while I'm more controlling/type A
Type A people aren't afraid to use their words. Type A people take control and ensure they come out on top. You just sound cranky and whiny.
Yes, I'm cranky and whiny from sitting in the sun and having to fight over my chair.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Huh?
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
I don't need help getting my kids ready for the beach, and DH is equipped to schlep the gear and set things up by himself.
I'm wondering if the younger generation of women is more needy and controlling? I know the younger generation is definitely not equipped to use their words...probably because they were raised by helicopter moms who supervised their play dates and handled every interaction for them.
Maybe that's true. This couple definitely seems like they need a lot of help, because they have an au pair traveling with them and still seem to be struggling.
As far as neediness, out of two of us, my husband is definitely more needy, while I'm more controlling/type A
Type A people aren't afraid to use their words. Type A people take control and ensure they come out on top. You just sound cranky and whiny.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Huh?
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
I don't need help getting my kids ready for the beach, and DH is equipped to schlep the gear and set things up by himself.
I'm wondering if the younger generation of women is more needy and controlling? I know the younger generation is definitely not equipped to use their words...probably because they were raised by helicopter moms who supervised their play dates and handled every interaction for them.
Maybe that's true. This couple definitely seems like they need a lot of help, because they have an au pair traveling with them and still seem to be struggling.
As far as neediness, out of two of us, my husband is definitely more needy, while I'm more controlling/type A
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So many weird things going on.
People using other people's stuff.
OP not voicing her preferences.
Her husband offering to get breakfast yet not waking up in time.
I'm so glad I'm not in your group!
Yeah, they were texting us but husband was sleeping. They finally got breakfast at the hotel.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Huh?
Maybe there are different rules for tent people? I'm referring to the real beach goers who use umbrellas and actually enjoy the sun rather than erecting a shelter and fighting for space under cover.
I don't need help getting my kids ready for the beach, and DH is equipped to schlep the gear and set things up by himself.
I'm wondering if the younger generation of women is more needy and controlling? I know the younger generation is definitely not equipped to use their words...probably because they were raised by helicopter moms who supervised their play dates and handled every interaction for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't sound like a terrible person. I have two kids and I would be annoyed. I don't mind sharing but want to be able to enjoy my things and don't want to feel like I'm being taken advantage of. I didn't enjoy going on vacation with others before or after kids. Now that I'm older I'm comfortable refusing. Getting together for a few hours with people is enjoyable but overnights are not. It's too much.
This is totally fair. You do mind sharing. You know you mind sharing. You no longer vacation with others. A grown up approach all around.
Here's your solution OP.
Happily shared snacks and sunscreen, etc. But my beach chair constantly being taken because theirs suck. Ugh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
For sure you've got it easiest of anyone on this trip. It's not like those moms and dads are leaving their kids with you to go to boozy dinners or spa days, it's hard effing work to take a beach "vacation" with kids.
Sure, but it's my choice to keep my life easy and comfortable. And if it's too much work for couples to travel to beach with their kids, then they shouldn't go. We're not their personal assistants.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's bc you don't have kids that this sounds like over committing but to me it sounds par for the course.
Except it only does one way. No one's dragging anything out to the beach for me to use or offering to bring me food.
Only *goes one way.
You said originally one couple with a baby brought drinks to share. Did you drink any of those drinks?
Your reaction sounds very petty based on the specifics you describe. However, it's hard to know without knowing the bigger context of these friends. If they are generally rude freeloaders over a long period of time, then stop vacationing with them or being friends with them. In most friendships, these things all work out and friends aren't bean counting amongst each other.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you really young? The things you list are such non-issues. Your DH seems to like group dynamics and you don't. Find a way to compromise, but "telling" an adult what to do is overly controlling and inappropriate.
No, but he offered that "we" set up the tent for them. Meaning we drag it to the beach, set up, take down, etc.
On group trips to the beach, it's common knowledge that the men set up the beach gear while the women get the kids ready. The men also are responsible for running out to pick up donuts or whatever provisions are needed. Newsflash: setting up the gear and picking up food is a million times easier than getting the kids ready for the beach (putting sunblock on a toddler is a truly character building experience).
As a childless woman, you had the option to sleep in and let the men do the set up and pick up breakfast. No clue what you're kvetching about.
Huh? No, the moms want the husbands to help with their kids. I always help my husband set up the tent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't sound like a terrible person. I have two kids and I would be annoyed. I don't mind sharing but want to be able to enjoy my things and don't want to feel like I'm being taken advantage of. I didn't enjoy going on vacation with others before or after kids. Now that I'm older I'm comfortable refusing. Getting together for a few hours with people is enjoyable but overnights are not. It's too much.
This is totally fair. You do mind sharing. You know you mind sharing. You no longer vacation with others. A grown up approach all around.
Here's your solution OP.
Happily shared snacks and sunscreen, etc. But my beach chair constantly being taken because theirs suck. Ugh.
"Hey Suzy, I'd like to sit in my chair now. If you don't like your chair, maybe you should head to the beach shop (or send your husband) to get a new one?"
Use your words.
We were in the Caribbean with friends and nobody bothered to pack sunblock except me. I brought special face sunblock (nothing you can buy at cvs; think high end makeup line), and there was no way I was sharing it. When everyone asked to "borrow" my sunblock, I pulled out one can of spray and said, "WTH guys? Who travels to the Caribbean and doesn't pack sunblock?" They responded in unison, "We knew you would bring plenty of the good stuff." I told them they could have the one can and then suggested they could buy more in the resort gift shop. Nobody got upset because we are all good friends (since high school), and we used our words rather than stewing.