Anonymous
Post 09/14/2017 22:00     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TRULY "elite" - let's be honest:

Princeton University (NJ)
Harvard University (MA)
Yale University (CT) (tie)
Columbia University (NY) (tie)
Stanford University (CA) (tie)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

That's it folks - those are the ONLY schools that are so elite they NEVER require explanation.

Of course Penn's Wharton School and Cornell's Hotel school are elite - but that's the point you have to specify the particular program. The other Top 25 schools are terrific, but there are NOT in the same class.


I liked how you snuck Columbia in there.


Hasn't Columbia been harder to get into than Yale or Princeton for the last several years?


Columbia has not been harder to get in than Yale or Princeton. Acceptance rate does not equal selectivity. Columbia gets many many extra applicants due to its NYC location, many of which are not qualified, they just apply to the only ivy in NYC.

Truth is no one really thinks of Columbia as on par with HYPSM.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2017 21:57     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:TRULY "elite" - let's be honest:

Princeton University (NJ)
Harvard University (MA)
Yale University (CT) (tie)
Columbia University (NY) (tie)
Stanford University (CA) (tie)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

That's it folks - those are the ONLY schools that are so elite they NEVER require explanation.

Of course Penn's Wharton School and Cornell's Hotel school are elite - but that's the point you have to specify the particular program. The other Top 25 schools are terrific, but there are NOT in the same class.



Columbia should definitely not be on that list, let alone be tied with Stanford. Stanford is way way higher. If you want to get super super elitist then hypes are the truly elite. Columbia is much closer to places like Penn or Chicago or Duke than to HYPSM.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 12:14     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
The bottom consists of places such as USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Emory, Wash U St Louis, and the like. Brown is the worst of the Ivies.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:55     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I consider cornell's eecs dept is more elite than a hotel school. What elite families are sending their kid to hotel school?

Go hang out in the hotel school and get back to me.


+1. It's really, really nice. I even took the pillowcase off the pillow so I could see the brand and order myself one.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:50     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Just skimmed a lengthy list of "Williams College People"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Williams_College_people

My general impression is 100% white, mostly males that have been dead for a long time

Many have held important positions, but I didn't see anyone whose absence would have impacted the world we live in today. Except Don Beyer - I still have a car I bought from him.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:41     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Everything I know about Williams I learned on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:37     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I consider cornell's eecs dept is more elite than a hotel school. What elite families are sending their kid to hotel school?

Go hang out in the hotel school and get back to me.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:25     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I consider cornell's eecs dept is more elite than a hotel school. What elite families are sending their kid to hotel school?


Oh, plenty of elite families (whatever that means) with kids who aren't cut out to be doctors or lawyers.

That said, Cornell's hotel school is elite among hotel schools. That's the universe being discussed here--the universe of hotel schools. Not the universe of elite families (whatever that means). If you're not interested in hotel schools, you can move on.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 11:19     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
I consider cornell's eecs dept is more elite than a hotel school. What elite families are sending their kid to hotel school?
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 10:16     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Also, I didn't write this from 2014, but it was updated by 2 Caltech students: https://www.quora.com/How-prestigious-is-Caltech

"Among the general population, most people have never heard of Caltech. It's also often confused with California State Polytechnic University (Cal Poly), so be prepared to be asked if you're referring "to the one in San Luis Obispo or Pomona."

And another: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/1082690/reputation-of-caltech/

"
The talk generally goes like this.
Studentid you go to college/ where did you graduate from?
Teacher:Caltech
Student:Oh...where is it at?
Teacher:It's Calif Ins. of Tech. in CA
Student:CA...You mean Cal Poly?
Teacher:No, it's a private school.
Student:Oh I see. Is it something like ITT Tech?"

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Caltech-have-the-reputation-of-MIT-among-the-public-despite-being-on-the-same-level-of-academic-excellence

Answer from a Caltech PhD

"3. Cal Poly creates confusion. Caltech suffers the accident that California Polytechnic State University, a less prestigious but much larger public university, has a somewhat similar name, creating some confusion in the general public. MIT has no analogous large school with a similar name."

And a response by a Caltech grad in the reply to that: "I've had people, including one prospective employer, ask me what it was like at Cal Poly. So you are right about that."

Seems like Caltech is still confused Good to know things don't change


How many people in the general public in California have heard of Williams, either? That's not the right measure. Anyone with a brain knows about Caltech.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 10:06     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:As someone who has attended both Stanford and Wisconsin, if a Stanford undergraduate would claim to be "elite," (the vast majority would not say this aloud), I would view this as synonymous with "pretentious douchebag."


The Truly Elite never claim to be elite - often they don't even know they are elite.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 10:04     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
As someone who has attended both Stanford and Wisconsin, if a Stanford undergraduate would claim to be "elite," (the vast majority would not say this aloud), I would view this as synonymous with "pretentious douchebag."
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 09:49     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:TRULY "elite" - let's be honest:

Princeton University (NJ)
Harvard University (MA)
Yale University (CT) (tie)
Columbia University (NY) (tie)
Stanford University (CA) (tie)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

That's it folks - those are the ONLY schools that are so elite they NEVER require explanation.

Of course Penn's Wharton School and Cornell's Hotel school are elite - but that's the point you have to specify the particular program. The other Top 25 schools are terrific, but there are NOT in the same class.


The only thing more idiotic than this thread is the fact that this poster felt the need to list the states for each of these schools. That's my 2 cents.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 09:34     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Elite colleges are an illusion. Most of them now are run by Presidents that let in their own.
Anonymous
Post 09/13/2017 09:29     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
An argument can be made that Stanford, Harvard and MIT are in a class by themselves. At the very top tier, yield rates are particularly relevant. There are certainly students who (for example) choose Yale over Harvard, but most don’t. When push comes to shove Stanford seems to be the top choice followed by Harvard and MIT.