Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:53     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:According to LA times article, this was "one of the largest far right gatherings in the US". Looking at the photo, what is that, 300 people? No police officers were killed, no stores were looted, they held tiki torches - LMAO?


Remember how we all "lmao" at Tea Party rallies? Look at us now. This isn't a joke.


??? Are the Tea Party people killing police officers, looting/burning stores, and physically attacking people in the streets?


Google "sovereign citizen" and police and see what you get. Yes, extreme right wing Tea Partiers are attacking police officers. And google "Bikers for Trump" and "attack" and see what you get - yes, more Tea Partiers physically attacking people in the streets. Just a handful of things. Not to mention the hundreds of hate crime reports compiled from police reports and media over the last 9 months. Were some of them faked? Yes, but the like that Seb Gorka and others have been putting out there to dismiss the majority of hate crimes just because a handful were faked is totally off base. http://www.newsweek.com/gorka-islamic-extremism-terrorism-right-wing-extremists-648754
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:47     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:According to LA times article, this was "one of the largest far right gatherings in the US". Looking at the photo, what is that, 300 people? No police officers were killed, no stores were looted, they held tiki torches - LMAO?


Remember how we all "lmao" at Tea Party rallies? Look at us now. This isn't a joke.


??? Are the Tea Party people killing police officers, looting/burning stores, and physically attacking people in the streets?



They are closer in ideology to anarchists than liberals are. So.....
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:46     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about a neo-Nazi rally turn into an anti-liberal debate? This is why so many of us fear what's happening in our country. Things that would have been almost universally condemned in mainstream culture are now rational responses to black people wanting equality.


Who hasn't condemned this rally? Everything I've seen here and in other media is expressing disapproval.



Has Trump condemned it yet? Waiting........
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:36     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:According to LA times article, this was "one of the largest far right gatherings in the US". Looking at the photo, what is that, 300 people? No police officers were killed, no stores were looted, they held tiki torches - LMAO?


Remember how we all "lmao" at Tea Party rallies? Look at us now. This isn't a joke.


??? Are the Tea Party people killing police officers, looting/burning stores, and physically attacking people in the streets?


Uh no but these fools weren't either. However they have totally usurped a political party and mainstreamed far right ideas. Which is what's happening here.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:35     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:They were shouting "secede!!"

Please do!!! and dont let the door hit you on the way out!!


Agreed. It's time to dump the red states.


You mean Virginia, which has voted Democratic in the last three Presidential elections, has two Democratic senators, and a Democratic governor?


No I mean states that wish to secede. Red states. Richard Spencer's infecting cities in VA doesn't make it red.


I guess all the minorities living in red states are disposable to you?


No I'd like an even trade- they come here and we send the racists living in blue states.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:34     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to LA times article, this was "one of the largest far right gatherings in the US". Looking at the photo, what is that, 300 people? No police officers were killed, no stores were looted, they held tiki torches - LMAO?


Remember how we all "lmao" at Tea Party rallies? Look at us now. This isn't a joke.


??? Are the Tea Party people killing police officers, looting/burning stores, and physically attacking people in the streets?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:33     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:They were shouting "secede!!"

Please do!!! and dont let the door hit you on the way out!!


Agreed. It's time to dump the red states.


You mean Virginia, which has voted Democratic in the last three Presidential elections, has two Democratic senators, and a Democratic governor?


No I mean states that wish to secede. Red states. Richard Spencer's infecting cities in VA doesn't make it red.


I guess all the minorities living in red states are disposable to you?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:32     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why folks from DC and MD don't like to cross the river.


Ever been to Tysons on the weekends?


PP cannot bring himself to visit a place that is on a street called "Leesburg Pike", which as you know is so named because it goes all the way out to Leesburg, and Leesburg is named after Thomas Lee, a member of the then influential Lee family, one of whom gave birth to now famous Rober E. Lee.

So as you can see, visiting Tysons is like a swearing-in ceremony for joining the alt-right.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:27     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:According to LA times article, this was "one of the largest far right gatherings in the US". Looking at the photo, what is that, 300 people? No police officers were killed, no stores were looted, they held tiki torches - LMAO?


Remember how we all "lmao" at Tea Party rallies? Look at us now. This isn't a joke.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:25     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They were shouting "secede!!"

Please do!!! and dont let the door hit you on the way out!!


Agreed. It's time to dump the red states.


You mean Virginia, which has voted Democratic in the last three Presidential elections, has two Democratic senators, and a Democratic governor?


No I mean states that wish to secede. Red states. Richard Spencer's infecting cities in VA doesn't make it red.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:19     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about a neo-Nazi rally turn into an anti-liberal debate? This is why so many of us fear what's happening in our country. Things that would have been almost universally condemned in mainstream culture are now rational responses to black people wanting equality.


Who hasn't condemned this rally? Everything I've seen here and in other media is expressing disapproval.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:11     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
I don't like these folks, but honestly, this stuff is just cosplay.

Realize that many powerful and highly educated people in the DMV have done massively more damage to humanity these sad-sack losers in Charlottesville ever will. If you really want to exercised about something, look at how much damage happens in the name of 'respectable' politics.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:08     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why folks from DC and MD don't like to cross the river.


Ever been to Tysons on the weekends?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:07     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
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Anonymous wrote:As we continue to sanitize history this will continue to happen


There is also a group that wants to remove all war memorials throughout the country, including one in my family's cemetery near Gettysburg in which some Confederate troops are buried in a mass grave. My great, great grandfather had a simple stone tablet placed on their graves about 20 years the war to coincide with the death of his son who finally succumbed to his injuries as a Union soldier. He thought both should be honored for their valor.



Sorry, I have ancestors who fought on the wrong side of history and I don't believe they should be "honored." It is what it is -- I can't change my ancestry and the ancestors can't change their choices. I'm interested in the history, want to learn about them and their lives, but that doesn't mean I honor them for choosing to fight for a wrongful cause. We don't have to love and respect all our ancestors.

"May god have mercy on their souls" is about what I give them.

...except some of them were 12-year-old boys, who were scared shitless and did what they were told. They didn't choose to fight for a wrongful cause.


They have my sympathy, but why would I honor them? Do you honor the teenage Germans who were conscripted into the Wehrmacht in the waning days of the Nazi regime? I feel sorry for them, and don't judge them like I would a die hard Nazi, but I don't "honor" them as though they were heroes. (Similarly, do you give the same pass to children growing up on the mean streets of inner cities, who turn to crime when they feel they have no other choices - do you honor them when they make the wrong choice?)

There's a difference between trying to understand history and learn from it and holding up those who came before us as worthy of our honor and respect just because they came before us.

Yes, you're right.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2017 10:06     Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about a neo-Nazi rally turn into an anti-liberal debate? This is why so many of us fear what's happening in our country. Things that would have been almost universally condemned in mainstream culture are now rational responses to black people wanting equality.



Exactly. How is this not upsetting to everyone? Your grandparents and parents who fought in WWII are rolling in their graves now.