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Anonymous wrote:My mother in law is from Spain so my children are Hispanic and white.
I can confirm that it does help with college admissions and scholarships.
S went on several diversity programs.

There is a certain hypocrisy and irony in someone using a white Spanish grandmother for AA purposes when Spain was by far the biggest and most brutal colonial power in the New World, whose legacy resulted in heavily racially stratified societies.....

Brutal invaders.

Right. Compare the former British colonies with former Spanish, Portuguese and French colonies. Even if you're not white, you're still way better off in the US/Canada/Australia/NZ than most other colonies.

The Spanish and Portuguese were even worse than British/Americans when it came to treatment of non-whites during the 1492 through the 20th century period. It's laughable that Americans would give white spaniards affirmative action on the basis that they may have like 2% sub-Saharan African DNA.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people 100% positive that Spaniards like to be referred to as hispanics and not Europeans? Does the term Hispanic even exist in Spain ?

Spaniards are as European as British, Swedish, or French people.

Even "white" spaniards as a population have more chances of having Maghreb genetic markers than white brits or swedes.

Def a difference

What about Italians then? Should they get affirmative action too? After all, a lot of them have Moorish blood.

Yes - how do you think the mooch got into held

Guidos def get Affirmative action.

Not true, and the term "guidos" is very offensive. But I guess that you need some group to take your biases out on since blacks, Hispanics and Muslims are off limits in the PC world you live in.

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Anonymous wrote:My mother in law is from Spain so my children are Hispanic and white.
I can confirm that it does help with college admissions and scholarships.
S went on several diversity programs.

There is a certain hypocrisy and irony in someone using a white Spanish grandmother for AA purposes when Spain was by far the biggest and most brutal colonial power in the New World, whose legacy resulted in heavily racially stratified societies.....

Brutal invaders.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people 100% positive that Spaniards like to be referred to as hispanics and not Europeans? Does the term Hispanic even exist in Spain ?

Spaniards are as European as British, Swedish, or French people.

Even "white" spaniards as a population have more chances of having Maghreb genetic markers than white brits or swedes.

Def a difference

What about Italians then? Should they get affirmative action too? After all, a lot of them have Moorish blood.

Yes - how do you think the mooch got into held

Guidos def get Affirmative action.

Do you have a citation for this? My mom is Sicilian and I've never heard of such a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people 100% positive that Spaniards like to be referred to as hispanics and not Europeans? Does the term Hispanic even exist in Spain ?

Spaniards are as European as British, Swedish, or French people.

Even "white" spaniards as a population have more chances of having Maghreb genetic markers than white brits or swedes.

Def a difference

What about Italians then? Should they get affirmative action too? After all, a lot of them have Moorish blood.

Yes - how do you think the mooch got into held

Guidos def get Affirmative action.

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they get rid of all of this racial and ethnic hair splitting and use a holistic approach that gives extra consideration to those of any race/ethnicity who come from a more disadvantaged socioeconomic background?

Actually, this is exactly what most colleges do. Colleges absolutely practice AA for poor kids. And signs that a kid is from a disadvantaged background are all over the application--where you live, what school you go to, whether your parents went to college, what their occupations are, the financial aid application if the school is not need-blind (and only a handful of schools are need blind), the recommendation where teachers will say explicitly, "this is a kid who has succeeded despite a lot of disadvantages."

The reason more of these kids don't go to college, or to top colleges, is that many of them don't apply.

Do we have to have this same tired conversation every 2 weeks?

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Obama. He is biracial but he probably identifies more with his white side because his mother and maternal grandparents raised him.

Obama has repeatedly self-identified himself as black.

No he didn't. He declared he was black. Black - not half black,

Black.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/us/politics/03census.html?mcubz=1

Obama self-identifies as black.

Obama declared he was black.

There is no contradiction in those statements. What are you disagreeing with?

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Obama. He is biracial but he probably identifies more with his white side because his mother and maternal grandparents raised him.

Obama has repeatedly self-identified himself as black.

...because the entire world, including the many Americans who referred to him as "n*****" and "ape", sees him as black.

Although I don't have a penis, I can self identify as male.

I like tacos, salsa, refried beans and celebrating Cinco de Mayo. Can I identify as Hispanic?

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Obama. He is biracial but he probably identifies more with his white side because his mother and maternal grandparents raised him.

Obama has repeatedly self-identified himself as black.

No he didn't. He declared he was black. Black - not half black,

Black.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/us/politics/03census.html?mcubz=1

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people 100% positive that Spaniards like to be referred to as hispanics and not Europeans? Does the term Hispanic even exist in Spain ?

Spaniards are as European as British, Swedish, or French people.

Even "white" spaniards as a population have more chances of having Maghreb genetic markers than white brits or swedes.

Def a difference

What about Italians then? Should they get affirmative action too? After all, a lot of them have Moorish blood.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you people 100% positive that Spaniards like to be referred to as hispanics and not Europeans? Does the term Hispanic even exist in Spain ?

Spaniards are as European as British, Swedish, or French people.

Even "white" spaniards as a population have more chances of having Maghreb genetic markers than white brits or swedes.

Def a difference

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative Action (de facto) policies should be applied fairly and proportionately and not, as currently, for the predominant benefit and avarice of Whites over the last 400 years. Over the last 50 years, feeble attempts at inclusion, are angering greedy Whites so used to being the only game in town. This is the naked essence of Charlottesville.

"Greedy whites?" You mean the same ones who fund scholarship programs and foundations that help thousands of disadvantaged kids or those volunteer their time to do the same, or those who fund the charities that feed, house, and clothe disadvantaged people? Surely since you are painting all white people as greedy racists, you meant to include these people too. Or maybe you make an exception because they give you stuff. Either way, get over your anger and jealousy.

Fortunately, so true. "We" the people has always referred to Whites. All the rest of America back to slavery picking 21st century cotton.