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Post 08/02/2017 17:33     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculousy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


My mother applied for her sister. By the time she got her greencard, she was in her 60s, retired, and sits at home and gets medicaid from her state (NY), without ever having paid taxes into our system.

How is this a better system than the proposal? I would much rather a young, educated person who wants to make a future for their family get priority- even if it keeps members of my own family out! Our current system makes no sense, and it puts the lives of people trying to immigrate here on hold for years at a time, while they wait and dream about their green cards.


Immigration system needs re-work, yes. I think the merit based system is fine but should be applied even for siblings.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:32     Subject: Immigration Bill

What is the difference between being discriminating and discrimination?
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:29     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculousy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


My mother applied for her sister. By the time she got her greencard, she was in her 60s, retired, and sits at home and gets medicaid from her state (NY), without ever having paid taxes into our system.

How is this a better system than the proposal? I would much rather a young, educated person who wants to make a future for their family get priority- even if it keeps members of my own family out! Our current system makes no sense, and it puts the lives of people trying to immigrate here on hold for years at a time, while they wait and dream about their green cards.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:24     Subject: Immigration Bill

Anonymous wrote:Trump's own mother would not have been able to immigrate based on this change. She was a maid. And what particular skill did melania have.


Melania was good enough to snag a man 25 years older to her and even fake her love to him until marriage. Thats a skill that not many immigrants possess.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:22     Subject: Immigration Bill

Anonymous wrote:Trump's own mother would not have been able to immigrate based on this change. She was a maid. And what particular skill did melania have.



Old guy BJs, from what I can gather. You would think we have enough gold diggers in the US that we don't need to import them.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:21     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Culturally backward people tend to be more clannish? Like the white supremacists and racists?


Yes like those in the Appalachia and rural areas. Very clannish and backwards.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:20     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


I am an immigrant idiot. who actually went through the process (and know many other who did) instead of reading some Cato pamphlet about it.


You are an immigrant idiot? If you say so. I've practiced immigration law for more than a decade and have worked on more than 1000 cases, so that's a little more than a Cato pamphlet and your personal experience. Clans have no immigration rights at all.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:19     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


I am an immigrant idiot. who actually went through the process (and know many other who did) instead of reading some Cato pamphlet about it.


Not PP. But thank you for accepting you are an immigrant idiot. A self declared idiot is someone the country doesn't need. Could you please self-deport to wherever you came from.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:19     Subject: Immigration Bill

Trump's own mother would not have been able to immigrate based on this change. She was a maid. And what particular skill did melania have.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:18     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


you seem dumb. hopefully this bill passes (unlikely) sonyiu get some much needed iq point infusion.

if I bring my two brothers and they bring their wives who bring their parents, that's a clan.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:17     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

Anonymous wrote:My family and I came from Russia in 1994. Neither of my parents had money or education and spoke very little English. I was in grade school and my brother and I started school without knowing a word of English. We stayed in a two bedroom apartment with another Russian family. I remember being hungry a lot. Both of my parents worked two jobs - sometimes dropping my brother and I off at the library because they couldn't afford a sitter.

My father now own a company that employs 12 Americans and gives them benefits. My mother is a preschool teacher. I am a pediatrician and my brother is in medical school now.

We are the family this bill would turn away.

Similar story for me. Many of the uneducated immigrants start small businesses. I am in NY right now, grew up in LA and lived in sf. In all those places I see low skilled immigrants starting small businesses.
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Post 08/02/2017 17:15     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Culturally backward people tend to be more clannish? Like the white supremacists and racists?


huh what? this is actually well known. backward societies have different social network structure with fewer weak ties and stronger family ties aka clans.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:13     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.


I am an immigrant idiot. who actually went through the process (and know many other who did) instead of reading some Cato pamphlet about it.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:08     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Culturally backward people tend to be more clannish? Like the white supremacists and racists?


That means the Miller/Bannon clan obviously.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2017 17:05     Subject: Re:Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA


so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?


Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.


Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.


The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.


didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.


Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.


yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.


Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.