Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 16:17     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:Op - if you got your degree in your home country of Croatia, then are you living here in the US now? And if so, are you currently employed?

Your GF isn't the same poster who posted in the GP forum about "Giving Up Dream Job for Family" is she?


We live in Maryland and I work as a TA at a university. My masters and PhD have been in the US.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 16:15     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:You should apply for jobs in quantitiative finance. My DH works for a quant fund, only has a masters in statistics, and makes over ~ 700k.

At your age (mid to late twenties), he was making over 200k with bonus.


Wow. Thanks for this info. Your husband must be really old by now or lucky!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 15:00     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
You should apply for jobs in quantitiative finance. My DH works for a quant fund, only has a masters in statistics, and makes over ~ 700k.

At your age (mid to late twenties), he was making over 200k with bonus.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 14:56     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Are you all the couple from Athens, Ga that needs housing ASAP?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 14:39     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Op - if you got your degree in your home country of Croatia, then are you living here in the US now? And if so, are you currently employed?

Your GF isn't the same poster who posted in the GP forum about "Giving Up Dream Job for Family" is she?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 14:38     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:Your GF posted about your job search and tryals getting the PhD.


Yes! I remember her posts. I wish someone would dig them up and link them here.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 14:22     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
So many biostatistic jobs in Maryland. Can't you stay in the area?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 13:52     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't you get a job with at least a Masters level degree?

I guess the tradeoff of a PhD program is you lose out with tons of student loans and zero real-life work/office/business experience.[/quote

My girlfriend got an offer in Florida and she's pressuring me to take this job. We don't have any student loans. She has had to make big sacrifices in her career to make our relationship work for the past 7 years. We're both at our breaking points. I don't want to take this job but I also don't want my relationship to fall apart.


The sacrifices will have been for nothing if you take this job.

You will have put in the work for a PhD and get nothing in return. You will have nothing to show for the past decade of work. All her sacrifices were for nothing too. It's like quitting a marathon a few steps from the finish line. That's really depressing.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 13:26     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If you have a phd in statistics hold out. Do you have data visualization skills? You can make more than that.


With 0 work experience?

Take the job. In a few years you'll be way more marketable.

Uh, no pp. I hire statistics (and other STEM) phds fresh out of grad school for more than $100k. Plus the job description does not demand a phd. There are better jobs op. 5-6 years of a rigorous phd program is not "no work experience".


It is absolutely zero work experience. OP has proven that he is very good at doing statistics in an academic setting. This doesn't necessarily mean he will be a capable employee, as he has no track record. Tons of people have big degrees but never perform well in their chosen field. If a PhD in statistics is that in demand, then you have nothing to worry about if you hold out.

I'm sorry that you understand nothing about phd's and/or research. Depending on the job and the degree, the experience counts. This is not the same as a literature phd applying for an HR job for which he/she has no experience.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 13:00     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You and your girlfriend sound like a total train wreck honestly.

She's applying for jobs on your behalf????

You have perhaps the most marketable phd degree yet you have to ask dcum of all places for career advice????

You thought it was a good life choice to reproduce with someone you don't love enough to marry???

I hope you all get your shit together and grow the f up soon cause damn



You sound like the crazy one here. This is a forum for job advice. That's why I am here. I am also not from the US originally, so things can be confusing for me. You need to calm down. I'm not sure what your problem is. My personal life has nothing to do with this. In my country, it's fine to have children without being married. Maybe you could travel to Europe and enlighten yourself a little.


weren't you from India or Pakistan before?


I have dual citizenship: Croatia and U.S. My girlfriend is on OPT. It's more difficult for her to find a permanent job.


Why aren't you getting married?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 12:36     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Look into more jobs in FL then. You are worth more than $86k. This job can't be your only option there.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You and your girlfriend sound like a total train wreck honestly.

She's applying for jobs on your behalf????

You have perhaps the most marketable phd degree yet you have to ask dcum of all places for career advice????

You thought it was a good life choice to reproduce with someone you don't love enough to marry???

I hope you all get your shit together and grow the f up soon cause damn



You sound like the crazy one here. This is a forum for job advice. That's why I am here. I am also not from the US originally, so things can be confusing for me. You need to calm down. I'm not sure what your problem is. My personal life has nothing to do with this. In my country, it's fine to have children without being married. Maybe you could travel to Europe and enlighten yourself a little.


weren't you from India or Pakistan before?


I have dual citizenship: Croatia and U.S. My girlfriend is on OPT. It's more difficult for her to find a permanent job.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 10:32     Subject: Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You and your girlfriend sound like a total train wreck honestly.

She's applying for jobs on your behalf????

You have perhaps the most marketable phd degree yet you have to ask dcum of all places for career advice????

You thought it was a good life choice to reproduce with someone you don't love enough to marry???

I hope you all get your shit together and grow the f up soon cause damn



You sound like the crazy one here. This is a forum for job advice. That's why I am here. I am also not from the US originally, so things can be confusing for me. You need to calm down. I'm not sure what your problem is. My personal life has nothing to do with this. In my country, it's fine to have children without being married. Maybe you could travel to Europe and enlighten yourself a little.


weren't you from India or Pakistan before?


I have dual citizenship: Croatia and U.S. My girlfriend is on OPT. It's more difficult for her to find a permanent job.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 10:07     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised someone with that much education thinks 150k in the bay area is worth taking. People with BA degrees get job offers for that much in CA. They are both lowballing you. You will be miserable on 150k in cali.

TBH I’d say no to both of them and keep looking.


No. $150K for a fresh out PHD is appropriate. It's also appropriate for someone with just BA/BS, but with many years of specialized job experience.

OP - You have to think about the future. The $86K job in Florida is a dead end job. The $150K job puts you in an area that has a lot of opportunities.

It's a no brainer to me.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 10:02     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Taking a bachelor's level job after a PhD can be bad for your career (even if the salary difference is smaller--like a bachelor's level job vs. a postdoc) because it signals to an employer that you don't value the autonomy and potential for growth that comes with a PhD and that you are desperate. If you take the job in Redwood City, yes the COL is high, but you would be more able to move to another PhD-level job later on in another location than if you took a bachelor's level job. Also 150K, even in California, is good money and you will be fine, provided you have appropriate expectations for housing in a high COL area.


But what if it's temporary? For maybe 1-2 years to get job experience. We really like the city in Florida. It's a good place to raise a family.


Let me guess. Are you first in family to get a PhD?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2017 09:58     Subject: Re:Accepting a job that requires only a bachelors degree when you have a PhD
Take the FL job since that is where her new job is. If she goes to FL without you then the relationship is over probably. If it was just you, I'd say wait until you get a better offer elsewhere or go to CA since you'd only have yourself to worry about. Once in FL for a year or so, then start looking for something else.