Anonymous wrote:Well, prior to getting married I was dating my now DW who was in the US on a green card. She got pregnant. I was content to stay single but she said we needed to get married because . . . well . . . something about the child's citizenship status in her home country. It sounded kind of important, like the child's status could be lessened if the child ever decided to live in that country as an adult. So we got married. A couple years after we were married DW said, oops, she was wrong about the need to get married. And oh by the way, now that we are married I can get a better, longer term green card (marriage visa) than the one I have. I wonder if I was taken on a ride, in more ways than one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to get trapped, don't put sperm in them.

Except on the "didn't actually get a vasectomy" and "didn't pull out in time" thread we learn how entrapment is abuse. But like many things in life, I guess it's only abuse if men do it.

His stupidity in trusting his partner (lesson men: never trust women -- if you do, they'll just call you stupid later for doing so) does not justify her abuse.

If you can't trust a person you probably shouldn't have sex with them. You sound like someone who will be happier with a blow up doll you can abuse to your heart's content

STFU u dumb puta. I guess you don't get it. The whole point is that there can be major consequences to trusting a person, which is sad but true.

A blow up doll can't get pregnant. Really, if you don't want to deal with your own BC - a blow up doll is the way to go. Get one.

You'd be singing a different tune if the topic was about men who remove their condoms during sex without warning.

Well, I wouldn't be sleeping with a guy who would do that, first off.

Regardless, if you do not want to get pregnant, you take charge of your own BC. That goes for both men and women. Double coverage.

In your first sentence you demonstrate a nice superiority bias ("bad things happen to other people because they brought it on themselves, but not me!"). Unless you are a mind-reader, you can never be sure what someone else is thinking, even those "good guys" that you picked out using your superior insight (according to you).

You then proceed to blame the victims, which is easier to do since you've already decided that they brought their misfortune on themselves.

Uh, if it would absolutely be a horrible idea for you to have a baby with the person you are having sex with - you use protection yourself. If you are putting the responsibility into someone else's hands, you will need to live with the consequences of that choice. A woman who lies about being on BCP or a man who would deliberately remove a condom during sex are bad news. Women do have a choice to terminate an unintended pregnancy or choose adoption even if that is not a choice that they would ever want to make. The man has no say in the matter- unless the woman allows him to help make the decision. Of course, a woman who intentionally LIES like that is probably not the type to allow the man any say....

Be responsible for yourself.

You are being willfully obtuse. People often have sex with people with whom they are not prepared to have children, but that's not same as "it would absolutely be a horrible idea." Maybe they are early in the dating process, maybe they like each other, but don't plan to get married. Life isn't so black and white.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to get trapped, don't put sperm in them.

Except on the "didn't actually get a vasectomy" and "didn't pull out in time" thread we learn how entrapment is abuse. But like many things in life, I guess it's only abuse if men do it.

His stupidity in trusting his partner (lesson men: never trust women -- if you do, they'll just call you stupid later for doing so) does not justify her abuse.

If you can't trust a person you probably shouldn't have sex with them. You sound like someone who will be happier with a blow up doll you can abuse to your heart's content

STFU u dumb puta. I guess you don't get it. The whole point is that there can be major consequences to trusting a person, which is sad but true.

A blow up doll can't get pregnant. Really, if you don't want to deal with your own BC - a blow up doll is the way to go. Get one.

You'd be singing a different tune if the topic was about men who remove their condoms during sex without warning.

Well, I wouldn't be sleeping with a guy who would do that, first off.

Regardless, if you do not want to get pregnant, you take charge of your own BC. That goes for both men and women. Double coverage.

In your first sentence you demonstrate a nice superiority bias ("bad things happen to other people because they brought it on themselves, but not me!"). Unless you are a mind-reader, you can never be sure what someone else is thinking, even those "good guys" that you picked out using your superior insight (according to you).

You then proceed to blame the victims, which is easier to do since you've already decided that they brought their misfortune on themselves.

Uh, if it would absolutely be a horrible idea for you to have a baby with the person you are having sex with - you use protection yourself. If you are putting the responsibility into someone else's hands, you will need to live with the consequences of that choice. A woman who lies about being on BCP or a man who would deliberately remove a condom during sex are bad news. Women do have a choice to terminate an unintended pregnancy or choose adoption even if that is not a choice that they would ever want to make. The man has no say in the matter- unless the woman allows him to help make the decision. Of course, a woman who intentionally LIES like that is probably not the type to allow the man any say....

Be responsible for yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to get trapped, don't put sperm in them.

Except on the "didn't actually get a vasectomy" and "didn't pull out in time" thread we learn how entrapment is abuse. But like many things in life, I guess it's only abuse if men do it.

His stupidity in trusting his partner (lesson men: never trust women -- if you do, they'll just call you stupid later for doing so) does not justify her abuse.

If you can't trust a person you probably shouldn't have sex with them. You sound like someone who will be happier with a blow up doll you can abuse to your heart's content

STFU u dumb puta. I guess you don't get it. The whole point is that there can be major consequences to trusting a person, which is sad but true.

A blow up doll can't get pregnant. Really, if you don't want to deal with your own BC - a blow up doll is the way to go. Get one.

You'd be singing a different tune if the topic was about men who remove their condoms during sex without warning.

Well, I wouldn't be sleeping with a guy who would do that, first off.

Regardless, if you do not want to get pregnant, you take charge of your own BC. That goes for both men and women. Double coverage.

In your first sentence you demonstrate a nice superiority bias ("bad things happen to other people because they brought it on themselves, but not me!"). Unless you are a mind-reader, you can never be sure what someone else is thinking, even those "good guys" that you picked out using your superior insight (according to you).

You then proceed to blame the victims, which is easier to do since you've already decided that they brought their misfortune on themselves.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to get trapped, don't put sperm in them.

Except on the "didn't actually get a vasectomy" and "didn't pull out in time" thread we learn how entrapment is abuse. But like many things in life, I guess it's only abuse if men do it.

His stupidity in trusting his partner (lesson men: never trust women -- if you do, they'll just call you stupid later for doing so) does not justify her abuse.

If you can't trust a person you probably shouldn't have sex with them. You sound like someone who will be happier with a blow up doll you can abuse to your heart's content

STFU u dumb puta. I guess you don't get it. The whole point is that there can be major consequences to trusting a person, which is sad but true.

A blow up doll can't get pregnant. Really, if you don't want to deal with your own BC - a blow up doll is the way to go. Get one.

You'd be singing a different tune if the topic was about men who remove their condoms during sex without warning.

Well, I wouldn't be sleeping with a guy who would do that, first off.

Regardless, if you do not want to get pregnant, you take charge of your own BC. That goes for both men and women. Double coverage.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP without a vasectomy, enough children already and single for a few years. Just broke it off with a mid 30's woman who wanted a baby and told her from the beginning I wasn't having anymore. She said she was on the pill until I noticed the pee strips in the bathroom trash. Manipulated - yes, thinking I was going to cave for her - no!

Way to dump that bitch

Why don't you get a vasectomy? It's the only way to be sure.

Having sex with someone is not the same thing as saying "I want to have a baby with you." Obviously, a woman who LIES about being on BCP while peeing on HPTs is not someone you want to be with long term. Same thing with a guy who would suddenly remove a condom during the middle of sex. Bad news.

Usually the slip ups that happen with BC do not involve deliberate attempts to get pregnant or to impregnate another unsuspecting person. That is why it is so important to be responsible for yourself and your own BC.

That's not really how it works, but there is a chance you will make a baby when you have sex wanted or not. If you make the kid the law says your responsible. That's fact. So if you absolutely want to not have a kid and still have sex, your best bet is to look into permanent birth control.

But the pp you're responding to sound like the "girl is responsible for bc " and " Id don't like condoms" type.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP without a vasectomy, enough children already and single for a few years. Just broke it off with a mid 30's woman who wanted a baby and told her from the beginning I wasn't having anymore. She said she was on the pill until I noticed the pee strips in the bathroom trash. Manipulated - yes, thinking I was going to cave for her - no!

Way to dump that bitch

Why don't you get a vasectomy? It's the only way to be sure.

Having sex with someone is not the same thing as saying "I want to have a baby with you." Obviously, a woman who LIES about being on BCP while peeing on HPTs is not someone you want to be with long term. Same thing with a guy who would suddenly remove a condom during the middle of sex. Bad news.

Usually the slip ups that happen with BC do not involve deliberate attempts to get pregnant or to impregnate another unsuspecting person. That is why it is so important to be responsible for yourself and your own BC.