Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is an "in pool" score for the NNAT? Just seeing if we need to schedule a Wisc v this summer?
No telling what it is this year but in past years it was 132.
Anonymous wrote:We got the result today. 22030
111 - 75%. We probably don't have chance for AAP ?
Anonymous wrote:What is an "in pool" score for the NNAT? Just seeing if we need to schedule a Wisc v this summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious about the nnat scores coming in this year. I was really surprised that ds only got a score of 105. This kind of thing is what he does best! I'm trying not to stress knowing this is only one test but now I am curious. Seems like a raw score of 36/48 would be higher than 60%. Did more students do very well this year or is this average for fcps? I am new to this so pardon my cluelessness. ?
45/48 was 99th percentile.
The test is age-normed, so a given score would be a different percentile depending on your kid's age.
This, many parents are confused by the raw score and the resulting percentile but a couple things to take into account:
1) age-normed: You could have two children in the same grade with the same raw score but different percentiles due to their age at the time of the test (I know a child in first grade who turned 8-he was a May birthday and parents opted to have him do K 2xs, and a child in 1st grade who turned 6-late September birthday, parents opted to enter before she turned 5). The age norm is a standard part of testing.
2) This is a brief snap shot of your child, maybe he/she had a bad testing day. Maybe this test was confusing to him/her, maybe he/she hit the wrong buttons, who knows? There are a ton of possible confounding variables.
I have done testing in the past and have been surprised by parents reactions. I think very few people actually realize what scores mean (including WISC and resulting "IQ" numbers), just because your child scores in a normal range doesn't mean he/she can't/won't be successful and I can definitely tell you that just because he/she scores in a "profound" range, does not mean he/she will be successful. It is simply on data point.
I posted the 45/48 99th percentile data point. When was the test given to 1st graders? Late fall? My child would have been ~6yr3mo.
Sorry, I really don't know much about AAP because I don't really care. I'm not going to help "guide" my son one way or the other. If he's in the pool -- great; if not -- great. If one is in the the right FCPS HS pyramid, I'd say how the child applies him/herself matters much much more than the the track s/he is on.
I have a 4th grader in gen ed and she's doing just fine. In 14 years, when she's applying for her first job, none of this crap will matter.
Why am I here, then? You might ask. When I got my son's NNAT2 score, I thought I should educate myself on AAP just in case he ends up in the pool. That led me here; and I was quickly reminded why I should stay away. See ya!
Useless, holier-than-thou nonsense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious about the nnat scores coming in this year. I was really surprised that ds only got a score of 105. This kind of thing is what he does best! I'm trying not to stress knowing this is only one test but now I am curious. Seems like a raw score of 36/48 would be higher than 60%. Did more students do very well this year or is this average for fcps? I am new to this so pardon my cluelessness. ?
45/48 was 99th percentile.
The test is age-normed, so a given score would be a different percentile depending on your kid's age.
This, many parents are confused by the raw score and the resulting percentile but a couple things to take into account:
1) age-normed: You could have two children in the same grade with the same raw score but different percentiles due to their age at the time of the test (I know a child in first grade who turned 8-he was a May birthday and parents opted to have him do K 2xs, and a child in 1st grade who turned 6-late September birthday, parents opted to enter before she turned 5). The age norm is a standard part of testing.
2) This is a brief snap shot of your child, maybe he/she had a bad testing day. Maybe this test was confusing to him/her, maybe he/she hit the wrong buttons, who knows? There are a ton of possible confounding variables.
I have done testing in the past and have been surprised by parents reactions. I think very few people actually realize what scores mean (including WISC and resulting "IQ" numbers), just because your child scores in a normal range doesn't mean he/she can't/won't be successful and I can definitely tell you that just because he/she scores in a "profound" range, does not mean he/she will be successful. It is simply on data point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am curious about the nnat scores coming in this year. I was really surprised that ds only got a score of 105. This kind of thing is what he does best! I'm trying not to stress knowing this is only one test but now I am curious. Seems like a raw score of 36/48 would be higher than 60%. Did more students do very well this year or is this average for fcps? I am new to this so pardon my cluelessness. ?
45/48 was 99th percentile.
The test is age-normed, so a given score would be a different percentile depending on your kid's age.
This, many parents are confused by the raw score and the resulting percentile but a couple things to take into account:
1) age-normed: You could have two children in the same grade with the same raw score but different percentiles due to their age at the time of the test (I know a child in first grade who turned 8-he was a May birthday and parents opted to have him do K 2xs, and a child in 1st grade who turned 6-late September birthday, parents opted to enter before she turned 5). The age norm is a standard part of testing.
2) This is a brief snap shot of your child, maybe he/she had a bad testing day. Maybe this test was confusing to him/her, maybe he/she hit the wrong buttons, who knows? There are a ton of possible confounding variables.
I have done testing in the past and have been surprised by parents reactions. I think very few people actually realize what scores mean (including WISC and resulting "IQ" numbers), just because your child scores in a normal range doesn't mean he/she can't/won't be successful and I can definitely tell you that just because he/she scores in a "profound" range, does not mean he/she will be successful. It is simply on data point.
I posted the 45/48 99th percentile data point. When was the test given to 1st graders? Late fall? My child would have been ~6yr3mo.
Sorry, I really don't know much about AAP because I don't really care. I'm not going to help "guide" my son one way or the other. If he's in the pool -- great; if not -- great. If one is in the the right FCPS HS pyramid, I'd say how the child applies him/herself matters much much more than the the track s/he is on.
I have a 4th grader in gen ed and she's doing just fine. In 14 years, when she's applying for her first job, none of this crap will matter.
Why am I here, then? You might ask. When I got my son's NNAT2 score, I thought I should educate myself on AAP just in case he ends up in the pool. That led me here; and I was quickly reminded why I should stay away. See ya!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely agree with the above post. I do not understand why parents prep for the tests. My child made it into AAP and I have the satisfaction knowing that this is her natural ability.
It's good to know your kid is a real gifted one.
But for many "only bright not gifted" kids, they need to go to AAP get a little more challenging, not sticking with"too simple" maths and keep complaining school is so boring.
I personally don't like intensive practice or highly-coached behavior.
However at least we should let your kids get a little familiar with the samples and understand what they are doing except your kids are real genius which I believe the chance is not high. The day when my kid was on test, a few of her classmates tried to get help from her as they really didn't know what did it mean.
NNAT only offers a piece of information to tell your child might be gifted in a certain way(like pattern reorganization)at a time point(your kids might improve a lot later). The real gifted kids are hard to hide away even they failed a couple test occasionally.