Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
An issue with some branches religion, is that there are strong societal forces (at least right now) encouraging kids to believe as fact some things (e.g., gay sex is an abomination, non-Christians suffer forever in hell) that some parents view as quite harmful, and not just a different path. Parents teach kids to avoid other behaviors and lifestyle choices that they consider dangerous. It seems that some religious choices would be included as well.
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the issues cited above (gay sex is an abomination, non-Christians suffer forever in hell) are not bible stories, but some Christian denominations cite them as being in the Bible and therefore as reasons not to have gay sex and not to sin.
As for the Bible not citing "branches of religion," the new testament was written before Christian denominations were formed. It's the members of those denomination who later determined that the other denominations were wrong about one thing or another, so broke off. The first example is Luther breaking off from Catholicism. There have been many Protestant denominations since then.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
So you see, there were no harm done to your child when you didn't discuss your believes within the prince/princess context. The child learned his lesson and moved on. I would approach the bible stories the same way, without inserting your agenda/belief. If the child begin to question the validity of the story, let them do the research. Take them to the library, learn more about that historical time period. I think this is what the purpose of education, to create a curious mind that always searching for answers, instead of indoctrinate the young brain one way or another.
At some point of life you child figured out the whole prince Charming deal. The same will happens with the Bible story -- eventually they will figure out (one way or another). But the lesson they learn will be priceless. For me personally, I am not determined that my child when he/she grow up, comes to the same conclusion as I did. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
An issue with some branches religion, is that there are strong societal forces (at least right now) encouraging kids to believe as fact some things (e.g., gay sex is an abomination, non-Christians suffer forever in hell) that some parents view as quite harmful, and not just a different path. Parents teach kids to avoid other behaviors and lifestyle choices that they consider dangerous. It seems that some religious choices would be included as well.
I don't think any of the Bible stories discuss branches of religion. If there is one, could you please cite it.
Anonymous wrote:. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
So you see, there were no harm done to your child when you didn't discuss your believes within the prince/princess context. The child learned his lesson and moved on. I would approach the bible stories the same way, without inserting your agenda/belief. If the child begin to question the validity of the story, let them do the research. Take them to the library, learn more about that historical time period. I think this is what the purpose of education, to create a curious mind that always searching for answers, instead of indoctrinate the young brain one way or another.
At some point of life you child figured out the whole prince Charming deal. The same will happens with the Bible story -- eventually they will figure out (one way or another). But the lesson they learn will be priceless. For me personally, I am not determined that my child when he/she grow up, comes to the same conclusion as I did. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
An issue with some branches religion, is that there are strong societal forces (at least right now) encouraging kids to believe as fact some things (e.g., gay sex is an abomination, non-Christians suffer forever in hell) that some parents view as quite harmful, and not just a different path. Parents teach kids to avoid other behaviors and lifestyle choices that they consider dangerous. It seems that some religious choices would be included as well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
So you see, there were no harm done to your child when you didn't discuss your believes within the prince/princess context. The child learned his lesson and moved on. I would approach the bible stories the same way, without inserting your agenda/belief. If the child begin to question the validity of the story, let them do the research. Take them to the library, learn more about that historical time period. I think this is what the purpose of education, to create a curious mind that always searching for answers, instead of indoctrinate the young brain one way or another.
At some point of life you child figured out the whole prince Charming deal. The same will happens with the Bible story -- eventually they will figure out (one way or another). But the lesson they learn will be priceless. For me personally, I am not determined that my child when he/she grow up, comes to the same conclusion as I did. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
This assumes that there is more validity to Bible stories than there are to the other stories your child is reading. True, some people think that, but if you're a non-believer exposing your child to many different kinds of stories, why send them to the library to validate Bible stories -- assuming you wouldn't do the same with Aesop's fables and Grimm's fairy tales?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
Well, it depends on the depth of your knowledge or your desire to research. There are some strong evidence that the remains of Noah's ark were found near Ararat. It will be a good opportunity to talk with the child about geography, history and archaeology. You can tell him you don't believe it. But are you in a possession of the entire information to make that conclusion?
That would go for any belief -- in that beliefs don't need to be fact-based. Beliefs can be totally feeling-based or a combination of facts and feelings - and interpretations of facts and feelings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
So you see, there were no harm done to your child when you didn't discuss your believes within the prince/princess context. The child learned his lesson and moved on. I would approach the bible stories the same way, without inserting your agenda/belief. If the child begin to question the validity of the story, let them do the research. Take them to the library, learn more about that historical time period. I think this is what the purpose of education, to create a curious mind that always searching for answers, instead of indoctrinate the young brain one way or another.
At some point of life you child figured out the whole prince Charming deal. The same will happens with the Bible story -- eventually they will figure out (one way or another). But the lesson they learn will be priceless. For me personally, I am not determined that my child when he/she grow up, comes to the same conclusion as I did. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
So you see, there were no harm done to your child when you didn't discuss your believes within the prince/princess context. The child learned his lesson and moved on. I would approach the bible stories the same way, without inserting your agenda/belief. If the child begin to question the validity of the story, let them do the research. Take them to the library, learn more about that historical time period. I think this is what the purpose of education, to create a curious mind that always searching for answers, instead of indoctrinate the young brain one way or another.
At some point of life you child figured out the whole prince Charming deal. The same will happens with the Bible story -- eventually they will figure out (one way or another). But the lesson they learn will be priceless. For me personally, I am not determined that my child when he/she grow up, comes to the same conclusion as I did. Even if he/she ends up on a totally opposite side regarding religion, it is his/her path.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
Well, it depends on the depth of your knowledge or your desire to research. There are some strong evidence that the remains of Noah's ark were found near Ararat. It will be a good opportunity to talk with the child about geography, history and archaeology. You can tell him you don't believe it. But are you in a possession of the entire information to make that conclusion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
Well, it depends on the depth of your knowledge or your desire to research. There are some strong evidence that the remains of Noah's ark were found near Ararat. It will be a good opportunity to talk with the child about geography, history and archaeology. You can tell him you don't believe it. But are you in a possession of the entire information to make that conclusion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
Thanks -- what if they started to believe something you really thought was harmful -- whatever that may be -- like they needed to be kissed by a prince in order to live happily ever after or needed to join a particular religion in order to achieve eternal life?
"Oh really?! Huh, that's interesting" and then we would move back to non-fiction or something light like Magic Treehouse.![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:or what about if the kids ask, "Did that really happen?" when you tell a story about a prince's kiss or an ancient flood or someone rising from the dead.
Would you always say something like "That's a story with some wisdom in it" or would you say "some people think it's true, but I don't"?
My typical response is: "what do you think?" and "some people might think this happened."
But by the time they were asking this questions we weren't reading too many princess type books (fortunately that was a short phase!).
Thanks -- what if they started to believe something you really thought was harmful -- whatever that may be -- like they needed to be kissed by a prince in order to live happily ever after or needed to join a particular religion in order to achieve eternal life?